You sir... are one awesome human being!

God Bless and Love Always

Any chance of hooking up another poster? I have one that I'd kill to have signed.

-Pete

It's crazy what a huge deal the whole Prop 8 thing has become. Who would've thought just 40 years ago
that this would become the issue that it has. Just goes to show you how much our country has changed and yet has stayed the same in so many ways. Whatever side you're on, 67ers peace and love to all.

I forgot to tell you........

I FUCKIN LOVE YOU...FUCKER!

I gotta say...I'm really liking "politico Dave"!! Screw Indie, you need a gig on CNN or MSNBC. Or maybe Air America!
"Talkin Politics with Dave Navarro"

Wow...really bummed that I couldn't get one of the posters, I was hoping Amber could've grabbed an extra, and I got shut out of the sale on obeygiant. :(

Glad you're getting your political views out there, D.

Gay rights issues are moving forward although not at the pace gay people would like or are entitled to. Things may move slowly, but at least they change...now gay people are able to admit to be being gay and are able to protest (though not in every country/culture), only a few decades ago women were being locked up in mental institutions for getting pregnant whilst unmarried, before that women weren't able to vote, before that slavery was acceptable and slaves had no rights and so on ....
The statement above is hits every note with me, especially the religious comments - I stopped following any mainstream religion as mine told me to love my neighbour, etc. but if they followed this or that lifestyle, then they were evil - a religion that advocates hate is not for me.

SB

PS - Yoli and Margaret - I think it is sweet you've been together so long - I'm not convinced my marriage will last that long!!

Here in Florida the same basic ban was touted as Amendment 2 - an attempt to put the ban right into our state constitution. Unfortunately this passed, much to my amazement. I simply do not understand why we do not allow gay marriage. The fact is that historically marriage has had NOTHING to do with the church or religion. Marriage was a combining of two households (or countries)in the hopes that the union would increase the families social standing, one of the families wealth, or would provide political leverage of one kind or another for the countries represented by either the bride or groom. The churches job was to bind and bless the union. If religious organizations do not wish to bless the union of a gay couple they do not have to. But why keep them from legally marrying? What ever happend to the sepparation of church and state?

I'm glad you posted Olbermann's comments on prop 8. I was watching his show the night he shared his compassionate thoughts and feelings on this matter.

Hmm... I thought I sent you this Olbermann video on myspace? Lol or maybe great minds really do think alike :p.

Nah, but besides that, everything Olbermann said sums it up really. Cool that you took it to the streets... that Rage protest that took place at the DNC back in '00.... I've always wanted to be a part of something like that.... fighting for something you believe in... everyone together out on the streets... powerful stuff.

Can't wait for the Dark Matter podcast.

Marriage is a civil contract. Bottom line.
The religious spin was to "bless the union".
I was raised in a traditional Italian Catholic
home, and I'm dead certain that my after-life
will be more comfortable with an asbestos suit,
but I don't hold with the "traditional" thinking
that a union that unites individuals and their
families in a loving and respectful way is
"wrong". What is "wrong" is the religious right
that tries to impose their views upon every
personal aspect of our lives. A union achieved
with the intent of love, honesty, and mutual
respect IS blessed, and our narrow circles
should widen to welcome all souls!
If churches want to gain a toehold in the
political arena, then they should kiss that
tax exemption good-bye. (Wow. A little
more verbal than usual for me..)xx a.wolf

http://www.janesaddiction.com/

hola, streamed your show last night, but was half asleep, so didn't want to get up and get my blackberry that was charging in the other room, i know lazy, but i had a couple exams yestarday and was pretty burnt out... hell thats worth it= nursing school- accelerated program at that...
go dave on your protest march! the peacful ones i have done have been about old- growth logging... pretty big issue here in OR, but haven't had time for that in a while sadly- always feels good to use your voice about issues dear to your heart ;) the non-profit i'm still slightly involved with is cascwild.org if anybody wants to look 'em up- awesome people.
one guy called in and mentioned civil unions as a option, they exsist here in OR, but your right 'tis not the same, but at least a step in the right direction- kinda a better then nothing way to look at it... i agree w/ you 100%. it's sad we still have so many ignorant people in this country, but i think it will change at some point... i feel kinda lucky that i was raised w/ an uncle steve and uncle marvin- it's a lifestyle i was taught is acceptable for as long as i can remember, but not everybody has that view...
great play list lovin' the revamped lost boys song... and going out will willy wonka was awesome... oh, yeah loved the old XTC song, i loved that song when i was kiddo! have a great weekend. hopefully i will be a bit more awake next week.
congrats to margert and yoli on your poster win!! ;)
the best, amy

The campaigns for and against Proposition 8 raised $35.8 million and $37.6 million, respectively, becoming the highest-funded campaign on any state ballot that day and surpassing every campaign in the country in spending except the presidential contest. The proponents argued for exclusively heterosexual marriage while claiming that failure to change the constitution would require changes to school curriculum and threaten church tax benefits. The opponents argued that eliminating the rights of any Californian and mandating that one group of people be treated differently from everyone else was unfair and wrong.
didn't know wot the hell prop 8 was so i googled this...i think ellen degeneres and portia are sooooo cute 2 getha...have two gay cousins and a friend who lived with a transvestite for 6 years and i also have deep insight into scripture that relates... god is fully aware that men will become lovers of men and women lovers of women it's written up in your bible folks jesus himself though he had the nature of god didn't argue or make loud speeches in the streets which i have always admired him for...it's like calmez- vous...keepin the calm...his gentility meant however he put up no protest and ended up being hung nailed to a cross between two criminals he knew people were lovers of money and power most churches were founded by corrupt governments and aristocrats pursuing these during the dark ages...people were beheaded for confronting the church...however pope benedict i doubt very much would like to see anyone's head roll least of all ellen degeneres...god is about love and pro creation babies are hard to make when you are in a gay marriage you kind of need the xx and the xy chromosome ...today the church today is lenient and loving not that i go to one the beach is as good a place as any to pray and give thanx...think it's a rather ridiculous waste of money 70 million $$$$$ to prove a point...if elton john likes to marry david rather than the woman he did at the sebel townhouse who am i to judge...i'm a fully fledged christian who expects the right to do woteva i answer to god and jesus and the holy spirit not church or state... by faith not by works i'm saved...which means acknowledging christ is of more importance and loving god and your fellowman/woman even if they like taking it anally haha it may not be your cup o tea but it might just be theirs i'm thinking bout dining with margaret cho good god dave navarro you are so funny...oh nikita you will never know it's in david i'd rather blow...just rewriting for sir elton and look the queen even knighted him...are the english more accepting?crazy world anyway they could have re-allocated the 70 mill for something beautiful ha like moi... xxo

17For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[c] just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."[d]

God's Wrath Against Mankind
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
googled you this i don't know how they'll take this @ erotica:)this year but there's also this...
6David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7"Blessed are they
whose transgressions are forgiven,
whose sins are covered.
8Blessed is the man
whose sin the Lord will never count against him."
taken from romans...as we know rome wasn't built in a day;)

Hi People,
The olbermann prop 8 comments had me so moved, I had tears and goose bumps listening to it this morning here on your site.
How powerful.
My mum is bisexual, she has been married to men and i am sure if she had had the chance to be married to her last woman love she would still be married today to her.
My mother likes stability with a partner but no one man has been able to do that for her, However there was one woman who could but the sanctity of marriage is not available for her.
One day hopefully the world will stop being so backwards and start taking some steps forwards.
Good luck to everyone, I hope that this issue will be overturned and you can have a wonderful life with the one you love whether it be with same sex or not everyone has a right.!!!!
Dave good on you for joining the protest....
You really have a heart of gold.....
take care everyone
Love S

Hey Dave,

Awesome post today! And I really wish I didn't have a day job with Fox, so I could catch your show live! The last week of November I've off, so you know where I'll be at midnight that Wednesday..by my stereo! Well, cheers for protesting for human rights, you so f'ing rock for that...plus, it's totally illegal what they did, they can't amend the constitution like that...I work for the Lawyer's here at Fox, and that's exactly what they are saying..it should be thrown out in time...LET'S F'ING HOPE!!!

Peace!

so, i just watched the video you posted, had errands to run and so on, but very moving. i mentioned my uncle steve and uncle marvin... y'know thier relationship has had it's up and downs and so on. my uncle steve, has been out since before i can remember(to clarify i'm 28 as of this past oct. 20th), his partner craig, died from alcohol abuse, after they had been together for over ten years, uncle marvin as been his partner for at least the last ten years. for some reason i always see gay/lesbian relationships lasting longer- dunno why that is, but i've noticed it. i guess my youngest memory comes from something my momz said to me... we were at uncle steve and craigs for dinner after we just came back to the US after my dads company transferred my family to harrogate, north yorkshire, england- when i was 5 (can't believe i remeeber this) and there was a painted goergeous potrait of the two of them on the wall and i asked my mom (or mum i would have said at the time as we just got back from living in the UK for 4 years) "why are they holding each other like you and daddy?" my momz reply was very simple " well darlin' they love each other just like me and daddy do, they are connected, they are meant to be together." for some reason i will never forget that. i guess good example, that would have been in '85-86' ish. i'll also never live down having a british accent till i was 7 from uncle steve... OMG till this day when i go to reno to visit... "you were the cutest thing..." ugh...haha... anywho, sorry to give your blog a double post, but this issue matters to me a lot. to top if my parents were married for 32 years before they divorced and i have seen more succesful non-hetro realtsonships then theirs... they were flower children... haha- actaully my folks love each other and will be best freinds till the end, but kinda an example...
again the best, amy

Awww, was so snotted last night...had both answers and couldn't get through!!! Never mind, such is life...awesome though that Margaret and Yoli got one. A Bridesmaid....thinking pink taffeta shot with black....ummm, sexy. I'm sure they wouldn't do that to ya..would they?? hehehe
As always a great show, and great to see you out with the whole prop 8 thing. Over here we have Civil Union Ceremonies. Gives them the same rights as straight couples. Obviously, you can't get married in a church. Which really isn't a biggie, as lots of people opt for other venues these days. But as you said, who really cares what people do in their own homes, as long as their not hurting anybody...there are SOO many other things to get their knickers in a twist about than that!
Have you watched Eagle vs Shark yet? Personally my fave Flight of the Conchords song would have to be, Business time, or maybe, Cheer up Brett. Brilliant.
Anyho, have a great rest of you week
Take care everyone
Lou xxx

I was at dance class when I heard Obama had won the presidency. An overwhelming feeling slowly came over me that we now, finally, had the chance to undue all the hateful, rights-eliminating, Constitution bashing the Bush administration enacted.

I came home and with a beaming smile turned on the TV to watch the election coverage. And I came crashing down. The first thing I heard was that Prop. 8 was passing, and it wasn't looking good. I woke up the next morning with the same depressed feeling I've had the last several elections. But at least this time, I haven't lost hope.

Olbermann said it so eloquently. Thanks, Dave, for marching and sharing. Let's not give up a fight to repeal it.
http://www.couragecampaign.org/RepealProp8

P.S. Whatever is happening with Jane's Addiction, why Thursday? The day after I leave LA? Arggghh! At least I've seen JD twice.

Peace and Love to All,
Curvilinear

I hope the bowling event is going well, and you guys raise TONS of money for such a great cause. Hopefully we'll get to see some of the crazy moments.

Awww, Sue!!! You should've seen the mad rush around the poor guy passing out the posters at La Cita after the show. It was crazy...I was lucky to even get one, and after the fact I even had to wrestle it away from some wasted girl who tried to take it away from me! I'm sorry, hun, you know I would've hooked you up if I could.

Love to all the 67ers and you too, Dave.

xoxo
Amber

PS. So Dark Matter is on THURSDAY's from 12-2. I was confused because I kept hearing Wednesdays...but that's not right...good thing there's a podcast or I wouldn't get to hear Margaret and Yoli win a poster! :D

first off, dave, sorry to- ugh, triple post,if
you really can't stand palin, as i can't, here is my reasoning- i'm a wolf advocate, palin believes and has areial wolf hunted- something that makes me wanna puke- so shooting wolves from planes in their own habitat- she may no longer be a vp canidate but what she has done on this front is wrong- very wrong- we are fighting this. hell, if you want to kill a wolf so bad get on the ground and just try to see who would win- weapons aside- before i was a nursing major i was majoring in environmental science specilizing in large predator re-introduction- wolves-.
maybe MSNBC talked about that- but lets keep that woman out of our government. serious, she makes me sick. i posted my involved-but-not really anymore- website on a previous post... lets fight the bitch...i testified at a wolf hearing a few years ago talking with defenders of wildlife and so on. can't stand her. not listing polar bears as endangered species when they are losing their habitat... the alaska pipline/aka drilling in alaska will produce very little oil but will distrube eco systems and migration patterns of multiple animals that used to live on the ground our mini malls and gas stations are on now- so do we really wanna fuck with that? my opnion on alaska, can we get palin off to mars she couldn't harm any other life being there.
amy.

Dave You da man! Much love
xo-*FuCkeR

I love the opinions/interaction flowing here. I can't say it better than Olbermann but here's my little 2 cents.

I'm a Christian (I've been raised that way to say the least) and to be honest... I don't know EXACTLY where I stand on faith/religion itself... I still consider myself a Christian and that's more of a personal matter for me. But as I have grown older, of course I've started questioning things I've been told that is "wrong," by some people within the church or those around me. I'm FOR gay marriage, I'm for abortion (if the woman was raped, incest, could be hazardous to the baby's/woman's health), and basically I'm VERY open-minded. God said that we shall love thy neighbor and the Declaration Independence stated that "all men are created equal" (women are created equal to... how sexist of you DIC haha) and I believe we shall treat everyone with equality no matter what their race, gender, sexual orientation, religious views, political views, etc. and you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING you're told or what your preacher may preach and you shall remain open-minded.

I have friends who are gay, straight, bisexual (who doesn't) and what they do is what they do... it has nothing to do with me and that doesn’t take anything away from their character so… no on Prop 8 :).

PS
Flight of the Conchords (thanks Dave for turning me on to them)… I’m going with Business Time as well, along with Ladies of the World, Leggie Blonde, Cheer Up Murray, and Bret you got it going on… but I really love all their songs, I sing them all the time now haha. I'll say it again... Dave you sure are "cool" in my book (like a little kid) lol.

Much Love and Respect,
-Kirsten

i remember your wedding dave to carmen almost pagan...the autopsy table pics i thought were kinda cute if a lil weird...symbolic of your death as a single man i was guessing???:)but i nearly ended upon an autopsy table with my ex man who was a goddamn freak trying to rape and break my radius(twisting my arm) and strangling me nearly breaking my clavicle nearly broke my tibia loer leg throwing me i must be made of fucking rubber i tell you oready for the WWE wherethe hell is jericho when you need him i thought am i ready to go gay yet mmmm let me see carmen or dave carmen or dave i still got a resounding DAVE fucking navarro from my subconscious MMM still hetero...cool...i'm down with anything as long as it makes you smile not grimace...love you babyXO

Thinking Like a Mountain
By Aldo Leopold
image of deer: 14kA deep chesty bawl echoes from rimrock to rimrock, rolls down the mountain, and fades into the far blackness of the night. It is an outburst of wild defiant sorrow, and of contempt for all the adversities of the world. Every living thing (and perhaps many a dead one as well) pays heed to that call. To the deer it is a reminder of the way of all flesh, to the pine a forecast of midnight scuffles and of blood upon the snow, to the coyote a promise of gleanings to come, to the cowman a threat of red ink at the bank, to the hunter a challenge of fang against bullet. Yet behind these obvious and immediate hopes and fears there lies a deeper meaning, known only to the mountain itself. Only the mountain has lived long enough to listen objectively to the howl of a wolf.

Those unable to decipher the hidden meaning know nevertheless that it is there, for it is felt in all wolf country, and distinguishes that country from all other land. It tingles in the spine of all who hear wolves by night, or who scan their tracks by day. Even without sight or sound of wolf, it is implicit in a hundred small events: the midnight whinny of a pack horse, the rattle of rolling rocks, the bound of a fleeing deer, the way shadows lie under the spruces. Only the ineducable tyro can fail to sense the presence or absence of wolves, or the fact that mountains have a secret opinion about them.

My own conviction on this score dates from the day I saw a wolf die. We were eating lunch on a high rimrock, at the foot of which a turbulent river elbowed its way. We saw what we thought was a doe fording the torrent, her breast awash in white water. When she climbed the bank toward us and shook out her tail, we realized our error: it was a wolf. A half-dozen others, evidently grown pups, sprang from the willows and all joined in a welcoming melee of wagging tails and playful maulings. What was literally a pile of wolves writhed and tumbled in the center of an open flat at the foot of our rimrock.

In those days we had never heard of passing up a chance to kill a wolf. In a second we were pumping lead into the pack, but with more excitement than accuracy: how to aim a steep downhill shot is always confusing. When our rifles were empty, the old wolf was down, and a pup was dragging a leg into impassable slide-rocks.

We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes - something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters' paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.

Since then I have lived to see state after state extirpate its wolves. I have watched the face of many a newly wolfless mountain, and seen the south-facing slopes wrinkle with a maze of new deer trails. I have seen every edible bush and seedling browsed, first to anaemic desuetude, and then to death. I have seen every edible tree defoliated to the height of a saddlehorn. Such a mountain looks as if someone had given God a new pruning shears, and forbidden Him all other exercise. In the end the starved bones of the hoped-for deer herd, dead of its own too-much, bleach with the bones of the dead sage, or molder under the high-lined junipers.

I now suspect that just as a deer herd lives in mortal fear of its wolves, so does a mountain live in mortal fear of its deer. And perhaps with better cause, for while a buck pulled down by wolves can be replaced in two or three years, a range pulled down by too many deer may fail of replacement in as many decades. So also with cows. The cowman who cleans his range of wolves does not realize that he is taking over the wolf's job of trimming the herd to fit the range. He has not learned to think like a mountain. Hence we have dustbowls, and rivers washing the future into the sea.

image of deer skull: 5kWe all strive for safety, prosperity, comfort, long life, and dullness. The deer strives with his supple legs, the cowman with trap and poison, the statesman with pen, the most of us with machines, votes, and dollars, but it all comes to the same thing: peace in our time. A measure of success in this is all well enough, and perhaps is a requisite to objective thinking, but too much safety seems to yield only danger in the long run. Perhaps this is behind Thoreau's dictum: In wildness is the salvation of the world. Perhaps this is the hidden meaning in the howl of the wolf, long known among mountains, but seldom perceived among men.

aldo leopod- thinking like a mountain-- your lucky i didn't go there with edward abbey... true american lit. but you would probably like abbey... this was written before my ass was born.
but i love it.

i hate dullness i like scintillating excitement at feverpitch with intervals of complete wholistic serenity...did you know i think i love the panic channel as a title for whatthe media is doing NOW...the fear factory...you know it's the antithesis of all that is sacred