November 21, 2006
The Supernova record is out today. Does ANYONE know about that? I just went to iTunes and noticed that there isn't even one comment up. Now, I have been complaining about the state of the music industry for a long time... About how major record labels don't stand behind their bands anymore but this is ridiculous. This is a new band that is full of platinum selling artists and the final winning singer from a high rated, network talent search summer series that cost millions to produce. CBS and MBP basically put together one of the most expensive ramp ups in album release history and so far, I haven't seen a single add or alert about this album. Now, the band will be fine. They are going out on a huge tour and will gain plenty of momentum I am sure. My point is, if this is the way Epic is going to treat these guys, how do we expect any major to really get behind a band that is new, fresh and totally unknown?
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November 21, 2006 02:24 PM
I totally agree with you on this. It happens to the best bands, or bands who would be great if they had exposure. Have a great day,Dave.
Posted by: Patricia at November 21, 2006 02:30 PM
hey dave! you're right...there were no promos for the supernova album and i haven't heard a thing about lukas since the show ended. it's cool that you actually care about changing the way things are done and are helping bands get exposure. keep up the good work! luv ya, xxx
Posted by: dave's bitch xxx at November 21, 2006 02:33 PM
Saw a ad in the bestbuy paper but thats it bro. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!
Posted by: Giovanni at November 21, 2006 02:34 PM
I am not an expert on itunes but I don't see any reviews on most of the cd's that have been released today.Did anyone else notice this or am I just itunes illiterate?
Posted by: Cinnamon at November 21, 2006 02:37 PM
Dave, I too was shocked to see Supernova's debut absent from the New Releases list on iTunes. I manually searched for it and wrote a review. It takes 24-48 hours for a review to show up. It makes me really sad how the music community in general is treating the release of this cd. I have visited every online music-related site to refute the bad reviews. Amazon was the only site that let my comment appear immediately. I just wanted you to know that the Rossi Posse is out there defending the band. Ultimately, it's up to some of the sites whether a comment is seen or not.
Posted by: Sparky at November 21, 2006 02:55 PM
Well, as I seem to be a bit of a myspace junkie - I was notified by "supernova" about the release of their cd. And, I just could not wait to go out and purchase my copy. There have been multiple "segments" on ET Canada about Lukas and the band, and Lukas and Gilby (spelled Kilby in the CD Liner notes by T-Lee - spelling mistake or on purpose???) performed on Canada's Gemini awards (Canadian version of the Emmy's).
Posted by: Dayna at November 21, 2006 02:58 PM
Sorry Dave, but I have to disagree. I think that Supernova is part of the problem of the music industry...not the victim. My only wish is that Lukas wasn't part of it,he is the talent that will be overlooked because of it. But I do appreciate the work that you do for new and unknown and truly talented bands. :)
Posted by: Katie at November 21, 2006 03:00 PM
There used to be something called artist development but that's been burnt to ashes. I just feel lucky that we've got great peeps (musicians) that can stand the test of time despite being thrown to the wind by the shadest industry ever. IT'S CRAZY, I can't belive how shitty artist get treated, bitch tossed by big wigs left and right (not all). Though I just want music @ the end of the day plain and simple.
Posted by: anonymousaures-rex at November 21, 2006 03:00 PM
Who wants to bet that, without a doubt, Supernova will flop, big time?
The right combination and magic usually don't happen with a forced plan like this.
Once again, Gilby Clarke does'nt deserve any mention with any of these projects. He has'nt done anything people! He is still learning basic guitar skills.
Posted by: Jay at November 21, 2006 03:11 PM
I am a regular reader of your site and Tommy's site so I knew when it was coming out....i miss seeing you on TV....there is nothing good on anymore during those time slots....Looking forward to seeing everyone on tour....I like Lukas and I understand why they picked him BUT i miss seeing Toby....do you know what the latest is with him?
Posted by: rockergirl69 at November 21, 2006 03:16 PM
Well, since the show started, I said that if Lukas won, I wouldn't buy the cd. I don't like his voice. So...maybe the no comment thing had to do with that.
But about epic records, i've heard that jordis has had some setbacks recording her album. Hopefully, it will still do well. she's so talented and an awesome person. she deserves it.
Posted by: Leah at November 21, 2006 03:17 PM
Thank you, Dave, for being you and for caring about great, deserving bands. I can't tell you how many times I have become frustrated lately with the music industry, watching as they allow all kinds of cheese to be pumped through the veins of television and radio while honestly good music falls by the wayside.
Rockstar Supernova is an amazing band, made up of four incredibly talented musicians. Their CD(which I bought today!) is fresh, inventive, and does not sound anything like what you hear on the radio today. Even the songs on the CD sound distinct from each other, while still retaining the sound that defines it as Supernova. In my humble opinion, this is what the music industry has been missing - Lukas Rossi, who is an awe-inspiring vocalist and frontman; Gilby Clarke, who totally kills on guitars; Jason Newsted, who completely tears up the bass; and Tommy, who is probably the best drummer in the world.
I love the band - honestly, I have never been this pumped for any artist, CD, or tour in my life. They are absolutely amazing.
Tonight's schedule: Chill with the Rossi Posse over at Rockband.com, blast my Supernova CD from the stereo, watch my boy's national television debut on Kimmel, and start bombarding my local radio stations to give Supernova airplay. Booya, baby! :)
Three months 'til I see Supernova and TPC in concert, and I can't wait!
Much love, Mr. Navarro!
Posted by: roxygal at November 21, 2006 03:17 PM
I was just over at the Rossi Posse forum where someone posted your post from here. I think most of us found out about the release date from e-mails on myspace and reading the Rossi Posse forum at Rockband. I just bought the CD, and I was able to see them last night on Jimmy Kimmel Live. I was finally able to give Lukas a hug and a letter that I wrote. I hope everyone watches the Kimmel show tonight to see RSSN perform, they rocked the house!
Posted by: Linda from San Diego at November 21, 2006 03:19 PM
I love the Rock Star shows, and I think that it has to have helped several newcomers careers. I will check out the Supernova record just for curiousity sake, even if I don't like it. Have a great Thanksgiving Dave and everyone!! We only have snow in the mountains not on the lower ground here in Idaho this Thanksgiving!
Posted by: Cori at November 21, 2006 03:20 PM
I agree that Supernova is part of the problem. The guys were in bands that sold millions. However, none of them were the reason for their band's sales. Gilby was in GNR for none of the studio recordings except for maybe the Spaghetti CD which bombed and was all covers. Jason quite Metallica because he was locked out of writing. Tommy wrote some really bad music for Motley Crue. Or should I say worse material. Even their good songs were crap. I feel sorry for Lukas though his 15 minutes should be fun.
The best thing Tommy Lee ever did was Pam.
Posted by: The Other Dave at November 21, 2006 03:26 PM
Afternoon Dave. :-) I’m just listening to SRL as I type this. Thanks, dude. :-) Cool CFR Christmas jam… Niiiice. :-) The “Snow White” jam is killing me, too. LOL I can tell you that many Internet fans—especially Lukas Rossi and “Rock Star Supernova” fans online—definitely know about the CD release today. I rushed out and bought two copies this morning. “Rock Star Supernova” is also going to be on Jimmy Kimmel later tonight. MSN/Sympatico has had an album premiere up for several days, as well. But, you’re right, the label could have made a huge splash for the launch and for the general public that doesn’t seem to have materialized. And, yeah, any truly original, unrecognized band being rep’d by a major label is probably going to get hosed. That’s why we’re with you, Dave, when it comes to promoting and supporting Indie acts and less high profile but excellent, talented bands. Revolutions don’t come from the top… they start at street level and that’s where we’re going to be, backing our homies and rockin’ out. At its heart, rock n’ roll has a rebellious edge, anyway… It’s time we remembered and embraced that with a 21st Century flair using all the technology at our disposal.
Speaking of promotion, as promised here’s some information about the fan events being scheduled for Vancouver:
A group of “Rock Star Supernova” fans are organizing a pre-concert meet/dinner and post-concert afterparty for the February 19th 2007 “Rock Star Supernova” concert in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Specific details will be e-mailed out to interested fans. We want to make certain dedicated fans of all the performers and musicians on the tour can get together in a safe, fun, friendly environment to celebrate the amazing music we love and wonderful experiences we’ve shared. We would like to cordially invite all fans of Dave Navarro and “The Panic Channel,” the 6767.com family, the SRL mafia and “The Panic Channel” Asylum/Panic Agents to join us for dancing, fun and festivities. Due to the venue chosen for these events, participants must be at least nineteen years old. Because these events are being organized to coincide with a concert, plans may change or be cancelled given the unforeseen circumstances that often accompany concert tours. However, we hope the concert will take place as planned and we’ll have a group of happy music fans to come and share our homegrown Canadian hospitality. If you will be in Vancouver on this date and think you might like to attend these events or would like further information, please contact “Sanlin” at email@example.com and put “Vancouver” in the subject line. I am the acting fan representative for these special events and will be happy to answer your questions. If you’re definitely interested in attending, please include the following information: name/nickname you wish to be identified as on the guest list (for each person attending); if you’re interested in both events, just the dinner or only the afterparty; and which fandom you’re principally involved with (such as Dave Navarro/TPC. Note that fans of all the various bands and performers on the tour are welcome.) Thank you for your time and attention and I hope to meet many of you in Vancouver! :-)
And now back to Dave… and “Rock Star Supernova’s” tune “Be Yourself (And 5 Other Cliches) blasting out over my headphones on SRL. :-) Peace to the peeps and hope you have a wonderful day, Dave. :-)
Posted by: Sanlin at November 21, 2006 03:27 PM
Thanks for the Supernova CD release note. I didn't know about it either and I consider myself fairly well informed. I have tickets to the 2/24 show in Phoenix and just saw Aerosmith/Motley Crue last week in Phoenix. You'd think with all the times I signed up to be on various "Rockstar" mailing lists over the past 2 seasons that someone would mine those lists to keep fans updated on new developments (and major developments like a CD dropping!). In any case, thanks for the news update and I'll check it out. Thanks to the other posters on here for clueing me in about the band's appearance on Kimmel tonight (I had checked the listing for the week and didn't see it). Happy Thanksgiving Dave!
Posted by: Susan at November 21, 2006 03:36 PM
At least there is some frickin action here in Canada. The stores are stocked and CD's are moving well today....WTF is up down there???
See you at the VANCOUVER SHOW!!!!!
Posted by: Takearide at November 21, 2006 03:37 PM
Wow, that is surprising. I will say that personally, I preferred the show "Rockstar Supernova" over the group "Rockstar Supernova." Sure, all the individual players are great and true legends, but they just didn't come up with interesting material when it came time to debut songs in the works, in my opinion.
However, the show, the contestants, Tommy, Gilby, Jason and especially you, Dave...rocked.
Posted by: Lynda (walkyrie333) at November 21, 2006 03:39 PM
I think I saw it. Somewhere. I didn't know it was today,though. I'm from New Zealand and I think I saw the ad online, but I'm pretty sure I'll be going to the NZ show - just gotta get tickets!
Posted by: Jem at November 21, 2006 03:39 PM
It was reasonablly well advertised in NZ where I am currently living, so I wonder what thats all about
Posted by: Opax at November 21, 2006 03:41 PM
Dave, thank you SO much for this post! Epic is my all-time least favorite label at this point. They do little to nothing for their artists. And I just recently said the same thing as you about avoiding major labels like the plague. Independent ones tend to be much more supportive of their acts.
Epic dropped INXS from their label with no explanation - although this was AFTER giving them almost NO publicity in the first place. Jordis Unga has had setbacks on the label because they wanted her to be more pop than rock. The Lovehammers (the band that Marty Casey is in) have had almost no publicity from them too. In all honesty, bands have had more success through independent street teaming than through label publicity.
As for Rockstar Supernova, it's obvious they've been mishandled almost from the word "go." They're all talented musicians, if sometimes underrated. But the name change lawsuit (which could have been prevented), changes in tour lineup and almost no publicity about their album release today just shows that Epic isn't putting the effort that they should into their acts.
Sorry for being so long-winded. Record labels (especially Epic) just really piss me off.
Thanks again, for the post and for doing all you can to keep music alive.
Posted by: Ali at November 21, 2006 03:42 PM
Dave, I too found myself wondering "where's the promos?" and where are the other 5 Sunday 10?
Posted by: Jess at November 21, 2006 03:45 PM
I couldn't agree more. I thought there would be more noise about this group and their CD. Although I think the problem is more in the US. Lukas and SN have had a lot of promo time in Canada. They're also getting a lot of radio airtime for Be Yourself, Its All Love and now Headspin. Perhaps its because we are so proud of our Canadian boy, Lukas.
Posted by: Beth at November 21, 2006 03:50 PM
I’m really surprised by this. I fully expected that CBS would put together some reality based recap of the winner putting together the album …you know with flashbacks and interviews with the other contestants. I don’t think that would have cost much and it would have continued public interest in the show. If they plan on running another series of Rockstar they should really make an attempt to keep the momentum…or at least pretend they are serious about the endeavor. Maybe time it with the tour and everything and announce it at the end of the show when there is still excitement.
Do you think itunes and the way music is released has increased the pressure for artists to release a single When I think of the benchmark rock bands it seems like many of them didn’t go for the hit single. I’m not sure if the rock genre was that competitive in the hit singles market. Do you think with the pressure to release singles fewer artists focus on producing an album of work, or it restricts what they produce? Do you see any musical genres that have successfully worked around the itunes thing and the lack of commitment from the major labels?
Posted by: meribella at November 21, 2006 03:50 PM
From the day that I found your website, I've been hooked...well not completely...just drawn to it...lol...
Just been way to overflooded with assignments and as this is my last week at College (university) for the year, It could be the last week I check in for a while..well that's until I return next year...sadly, I don't have the internet at home.
Well, I'm going to miss reading about your adventures and your words of wisdom..lol...
May check in later this week with a final post :-)
Take care and hope you have a good day!!
(from New Zealand)
Posted by: Nancy at November 21, 2006 03:56 PM
I've known about the album release for quite a while now and got my pre-ordered CD in the mail last Saturday. This is an awesome album. None of the songs sound the same as the next one. It's new, fresh, and invigorating.
If you are a big fan of Supernova (as I am), come check out a great fan-based website, www.supernovafans.com.
Posted by: Leigh Ane at November 21, 2006 03:57 PM
Honestly Dave I think there's a lot of inaction, incompetence, and apathy in not just the music industry but in almost any industry or endeavor these days.
It's all about making the most money with the least amount of effort. It's all about some asshole's three martini lunches, tee time, vacation house...it's got NOTHING to do with quality, with diversity...or passion.
And Dave, it IS political. The twisted corporate mentality of the bottom line has infected our culture top to bottom. Average Americans are more apt to review their lives with a financial yardstick...as in, I made this much money this year vs. I accomplished these important things this year.
We complain, yes we do, about these issues. But can we be sure that we have not, through our own apathy and inaction, brought them on ourselves?
It’s a question with some merit. I do believe that we need to do MORE to prevent the marginalization of our culture by the self-interests of corporations and their political pawns.
For starters, WAKE UP and realize the importance of what is happening before we’ve got NOTHING to wake up to.
Posted by: Dawna at November 21, 2006 04:03 PM
I bought the RS:SN album, and I have tickets to the Radio City show, but I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of promotion. It feels, to this fan, like there have been so many setbacks -- bands being announced as part of the tour, then unceremoniously dropped; Jason's unfortunate injury resulting in his inability to tour; murmurings of fan club members not getting what they were promised. So the fact that this album drops with barely a whisper seems like one in a long line of indications that this project is being completely mishandled.
Posted by: Heather at November 21, 2006 04:27 PM
Well I worked for corporate America for the first time in many years starting in December '03, and I can tell you it was absolute modern day sweat shop circumstances, at the very best.
Posted by: Tina Paid at November 21, 2006 04:32 PM
I SAW A MENTION OF RS Supernova in Rolling Stone-the rating was so-so. It's not just the new bands who aren't getting promo's/airplay-look at some of the classis bands too. .38 Special had a new album last year. "Hailey's get a Harley" was totally rocking, but got no airplay. Something is just wrong with the industry! How can we fix it???
Posted by: Debra at November 21, 2006 04:33 PM
First of all, I hate the way Epic has handled most everything mentioned already -- the tour changes, yanking Jordis and Marty back into obscurity, the lack of anything closely resembling advertising -- but let me take the devil's advocate approach for a second:
The entire Rock Star: Supernova experience was at its core an EXPERIMENT, something never tried before. Mushing three recognizable musicians with an undiscovered front man in front of an international audience. It was an experiment on television and continues to be an experiment. For our entire summer we watched it unfold and EVERY WEEK we were told by (the luscious) Brooke Burke that Supernova's CD would come out November 21 and that the band would then embark on a world tour. EVERY WEEK! The experiment has proven that no matter how much hype or publicity or buzz is created around something, the fickle public will FORGET about you in a matter of moments. But is that really the issue? I would hope that after seeing how many truly remember or paid attention, once those numbers are tallied, that Epic would then push Supernova hard to the rest of the world. Maybe that's their plan. Probably not, but it makes sense to see how far the "ramp up" as Dave called it actually caused before throwing a new promotional quantity into the experiment.
So there's my two cents. I don't even necessarily agree with it, but it's the other side of the argument.
Posted by: justin at November 21, 2006 04:34 PM
I heard you rant about this on CFR the other night, and I totally agree that unless you are a pop or hip-hop artist, you might as well forget about any support from the label. And the RSSN album release support is pretty pathetic, or should I say, apathetic.
That said, RS Supernova seems to be a comedy of errors. First the name-change fiasco (which I hear from friends in law could have easily been avoided except for one Mark Burnett), the unceremonious dropping of the other rockers and the House band from the tour after they were highly promoted during the show as being part of the tour, losing Jason Newsted (and in case you don't know, there are lots of people who aren't completely buying the shoulder injury story), and other little things. It's kind of hard to take RS Supernova seriously.
As Asia said, "only time will tell," and whether RSSN will be the Asia of the 21st Century remains to be seen. I'll give Asia credit, though, they made several albums.
Posted by: LA at November 21, 2006 04:34 PM
That's just sad. I've worked in the industry for years and am with you on that Dave - you can't count on the labels to do any kind of real promotion on much that really matters. Especially if they don't see it as a "top 40 contender". It's all about the fanbase, and the artist themselves putting the word out. Thank God for the internet!! And things like SRL.
Posted by: Jannie at November 21, 2006 04:48 PM
PS - here's where "stupid" comes in to play - I'm sure that a lot fo people who watched the show would run out and buy the album, or at least down load it, if they knew it were available. Shit, I've been waiting for it and if not for the quick hit on 6767, I'd never know it was out there. Thanks for letting us know!
Posted by: Jannie at November 21, 2006 04:53 PM
sounds like what happend to another great band with 3 awsome muscians called the panic channel. what happend to your label support and now that you see this happening first hand to your projects have you ever thought of doing your own label now that you have the resources? Just wondering. oh and by they way thanks for the acustic set last week.
Posted by: mblei349 at November 21, 2006 04:57 PM
Haven't gotten to it yet, Dave. I'll pick up RSN after I get paid next week.
Take care. <3 always
Posted by: Francesca at November 21, 2006 04:57 PM
Dave, Other than CFR or this site I never heard about the release & we have tickets for the Chicago show (mainly for The Panic Channel though). I have become a huge fan of this site & of Billy's. It is unbelievable how the industry is. I never had an insight to it before and now that I do, it is very sad. Keep makin' the music is all I can say. Thank God for technology. Peace. NIKI
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Posted by: recovering sex addict, but for how long muahhahaha at November 21, 2006 05:07 PM
just because there are big names on it does not mean it's good. i think the majority of people are ready for something in rock music that is actually going to change their lives. nobody cares about old rockstars trying to sell records from reality television or just because they were once in big bands.
Posted by: michael at November 21, 2006 05:59 PM
I already have the record.. Lukas is great. It was released in Australia on Saturday and I went to several different places trying to buy it, one of which had it in stock but hadn't "processed" it yet, which meant I couldn't buy it. Well hello, there I was, cash in hand, ready to buy two copies (one for me and one for my sister) and they couldn't even be bothered, they told me to come back midweek. So on Monday I drove 60kms to a reliable shop to pick it up, and drove 60kms back listening to it, it's great!
But mate, what the heck? It makes no sense to release the album without releasing a few singles from it first, that's nuts. The whole idea is to get people drooling for it. Just throwing it out there is incredibly lazy of the record company, isn't it?
And people, if you don't like the cd, or don't like the people involved and therefore won't buy the cd, that's your loss. Sucks to be you.
Lukas really rips it up, and it's great. The drumming is incredibly dark, I had no idea it was possible. The bass is growly and fantastic, and who cares whether or not Gilby is the one playing the guitars? How's about believing what the band is telling you instead of trashing people all the time?
I don't care what the CD reviewers say, I love it. That's what counts.
Posted by: Snoskred at November 21, 2006 06:49 PM
Dave Navarro: Champion of the Glamour & The Street.
Just wanted to say hi Dave and hope you're doing great and feeling fine. thank you for all you do for us. how's the foot?
Posted by: Season at November 21, 2006 06:50 PM
Hi Dave, It's great that you are backing up Lukas and the boys and every other musician out there. Yes, there is definitely something wrong with the record labels and their lack of support for artists. This lack of support and push for play, has been going on for way too long. I want a job there. I will fix their A**'s.
I did know about the release of RSS's CD through the show's website, a Rossi Posse website and an email I received from Epic a few weeks ago? I did not receive any kind of reminder about the CD release from the official R.S. Supernova website either. Hmmmmmmm. Anyway, I picked up a copy today, as soon as I could get to the nearest retailer. LOVE IT. IT ROCKS!!!!!
Posted by: Maggzz at November 21, 2006 06:52 PM
Speaking of releases on iTunes, I downloaded Storm Large's "Ladylike" with you backing her up. Now that is the way that track should sound. None of that freakin "what the what" like she sang on the show. And it rocks!!!
Posted by: BigBill at November 21, 2006 06:52 PM
I wouldn't sign my band to any major label right now. I just don't see any reason to. We're just going the DIY route right now and I don't see much reason to change. We can print up cd's as we go along, sell them through cdbaby and on iTunes and do just fine.
Maybe in the future I would consider a indie label. I don't know.
It's amazing how much the music industry has changed in the last 5 years or so.
Curt - distant daze
Posted by: Curt Richardson at November 21, 2006 07:42 PM
Dave, you are right! I am a shopaholic and I haven't seen any advertisements for the CD. I have the CD because I ordered it before the show was off the air.
What do you suggest we do to right this situation?
Posted by: Angel at November 21, 2006 07:46 PM
Hey Dave, thanks for the heads up on RSSN. Knew the CD was out today, but forgot. I had to search for it. For some reason its not listed or featured in the new releases on the Canada site. Strange, because the singles were featured and both singles were actually number one downloads on itunes here for a while. I think that this band is being snubbed by some in the music industry, because it was "planned" on TV. I know they will do well here in Canada, we just don't give a crap where the music comes from as long as it's good. Funny, I was just talking to some friends about how rock music seems to be more popular in Canada than in the US. (Tragically Hip are icons here.) Maybe you need to get your ass up here.
Posted by: Di at November 21, 2006 07:46 PM
I haven't seen anything either and if it wasn't listen to you the other day on Camp Freddie I wouldn't haven known. I a agree with you and am thankful that you are one of the few who has decided to take it back and reach out directly to your fans.
thanks for being you
Posted by: noelle at November 21, 2006 08:26 PM