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August 17, 2006
TPC on Love Line Tonight!
The Panic Channel's Dave and Steve on Love Line tonight. (10:00pm - 12:00am PST) Tune in or call in with questions while we tackle some of the hottest issues regarding sex, dating and love. Hell, I may even clean up a rumor that, much to my astonishment, hasn't gone away yet. I will do my best to Podcast this after the show.
WOW! This is definitely an all time record here on 6767! Over 300 comments under one post, and yes, I have read them all. First of all let me start off by saying that my job on the show, is to critique and give my opinions on the contestants that are auditioning, not on Supernova. It is their show and a search for their singer. Ultimately, the direction they want to go in is their choice too. On the Gilby thing, my understanding is that he objected to Jill's grinding on him, not that she was sexy. I didn't see the dancers doing that, so perhaps there is a difference there. I don't know I haven't spoken to him about it. "Those four" dancers seemed to be doing what they were hired for. Dancing. Gilby's comment to Jill appeared to be more along the lines of a female singer representing his band, not a commentary on sexy chicks in general. (I of course, have no problem with the sexy stuff as I made clear on that show a few weeks back. Jane's had dancers on the last tour and even actual strippers back in 97. They did their share of grinding, but then again, they weren't our lead singer. I do see his point and the difference.) As for giving Dilana the song to sing on, they made it clear that everyone would be doing a song in the coming weeks, so I disagree that they have "given" the competition away. She just happened to be first, based on her performance down at Pulse Studio. Now for the track. Obviously many people didn't like the new Supernova track. What can I tell ya? That is clearly the direction they have chosen to go with in this band.
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August 17, 2006 02:54 PM
Comments
First!! (Dave thanks for ending that rage!)
Peace.
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 17, 2006 03:01 PM
Hey Dave,
Do you think you can Podcast this?
CE
Posted by: ChristineE at August 17, 2006 03:05 PM
Ohhh, podcast for sure...I"d love to hear this one...
Thanks for afirming you read them all, I love your level of interest!!!
Have fun, can't wait to here the show
Kisses~
Posted by: Chrissy at August 17, 2006 03:08 PM
Definitely looking forward to the show tonight. And woot for a possible podcast. As for Rock Star, I'm just moving on from it and looking forward to next week. And it's about damn time Zayira went home.
xo
Posted by: Kristen at August 17, 2006 03:12 PM
What time is the loveline thing scheduled for?
Posted by: E at August 17, 2006 03:16 PM
Nevermind. I just reread the post.
Posted by: E at August 17, 2006 03:17 PM
I have to say I appreciate your responding to posts. I can't understand why so many people don't understand your role, and if song selection sucks,it is not "Daves fault". I love hearing your input and critique of the singers. You make the show worth watching. Keep it real!!!!
Posted by: mary at August 17, 2006 03:18 PM
WOW,it seems like everyone is pissed because dilana got the FIRST shot with SN.They clearly said everyone would get a chance.Reminds me of my kids when i ask them who wants to ride on the back of my fatboy first.SN did have that 80's sound to me.They reminded me of some old april wine albums i have in the attic.So what,they fuckin rocked.Dilana did a great job also.The chicks on stage made it even better to me.Who in the fuck can not love good rock and hot sexy ladies shakin that ass.Dave,i wish everybody could stay the fuck out of your personal life.Peace from new mexico
Posted by: chris sandoval at August 17, 2006 03:19 PM
Hi Dave,
Is there any chance that you will have a spare moment sometime soon so you can do another session of SRL? When I heard Raiana call in on Rockline, I realized how much I missed it.
I love TPC's album. I'm definately interested in Planchette. Hope that comes to fruition.
Kimmel on Monday, right?!?
Posted by: trickynikki at August 17, 2006 03:20 PM
I will be buying your cd. Love it. You seem to me as the most decent guy, level headed, have a clear mind and vision. You see things for what they are, make them simple and sensible and go right at the core. Don't know why I say this since I was going to comment on the show. I would say that from that song they performed with Dilana.. it´s a type of music that only a couple of them left can fit into imo. But it will be exciting to see how people try adapting to their music. As for the rumour.. my jaw fell when I read that in the paper half way across the globe. I looked at my boyfreind and he put up a grin and said No Way!
Posted by: Julia at August 17, 2006 03:25 PM
Dave, you're the sweetest, sexiest thing on the planet, an TPC's album rocks, I got it today. Simply rocks. But Dave, who does pick the songs that everyone gets to sing weekly?
They need a new list of music... *G*
Posted by: JadedRogue at August 17, 2006 03:27 PM
Dav,
Thought the show was good, Dilana rocked the house. I liked SN song, don't know what all the fuss is about. People are just ****** up. Patrice actually woke up, or something...
Ryan was a dream...Magni was great. But you are the reason I watch..See you in my dreams.
Kathy
Posted by: Kathy at August 17, 2006 03:29 PM
I couldn't wait to see your response to the onslaught. I have to chime in by saying I thought the SN song teetered on the very edge of cheesy. While I was listening, I imagined you sitting there listening and somewhere deep inside feeling just a wee bit smug when comparing what was happening on stage to TPC. I know that you are supportive of SN; and I have to applaud them for trying out on national television what most new bands polish in small venues. But still, TPC is great, and SN can only hope to get as good a lead singer as you've found. As a fellow Oregonian, I have to support Storm, but Steve has a great voice. Thanks for your website and blog; it makes a nice break in my day to catch up on what you're doing. Hang in there with your D. I've done that twice; can't imagine going through it under the spotlights.
Posted by: Tami at August 17, 2006 03:31 PM
Sweet Dave...
Thanks for cutting through the crap and getting to the heart of it. I think I can speak for most (if not all) of us who admire your honesty and integrity in matters concerning Rockstar.
I'd go on and on about how much "I love you", but I must go and buy your new album now.
XOXO
Posted by: Deb at August 17, 2006 03:33 PM
Phew...now maybe that crazy SN tirade can be over!! I am definitely looking forward to the podcast.
I tried to listen to the Rockline show live…I was all up in my room, taping wire coat hangers to the antenea of my friends bullshit little radio, twisting it this way…then that way, desperately trying to cut back on the static...my roommate came busting into my room while I was standing on my bed holding the stereo above my head in an attempt to cut through the static and hear you guys...I think that is when I realized that you'd probably just podcast it and gave up on my impossible mission ...it was pretty funny though...hahaha!
Love you Dave, and your integrity.
~Amber :)
Posted by: Ambersonian at August 17, 2006 03:34 PM
Hi Dave,
There were quite a few messages about the selecting of the songs for the show. Could you address those? Who picks the songs for the song pool? Are there licensing limitations? It seems like there is a lot less diversity this year. Also, what exactly is the role you play as Executive Producer on the show? I like the stance you took with Storm last night, BTW. Very classy move.
Cheers,
Michael
Posted by: Michael Alberty at August 17, 2006 03:35 PM
Dave-
I can't wait to hear U and Steve on
"Love Line" tonight.
There is no way I am missing that show :)
And I am truly amazed -
It just goes to show you how a little
"love line" has instantly stopped
all the rage from that last blog!
Ahhh the power !
67ers - Peace at last
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 17, 2006 03:39 PM
Dave,
Thanks for your response about RS this week.
Too bad thats the direction the band has chosen. I kind of was shocked that you thought it "amazing". Because that song sucked. It made Ty's Stop/Go look good.
It would be cool if you suggested to SN that they incorporate some of the rockers personalities and songwriting skills into their songs (they desperately need a good songwriter) and someone to tell them to hold the cheese.
Posted by: Mike at August 17, 2006 03:39 PM
Dave, Audience perception will trump any reasons offered. So it doesn't matter how valid the reasons given for Dilana's selection as the first performer, the perception is that she has been chosen. And given that she has never heard even a glimmer of criticism for her performances, can you really not expect the audience to reach the conclusion that the contest is over for all intents and purposes? As a producer, I would think you'd find this something of concern.
Congrats on the Panic Channel album, by the way.
Posted by: werlkj at August 17, 2006 03:40 PM
I think it's kinda interesting that the singers didn't know what style of rock they were playing when they auditioned. What if they don't like it?
Posted by: Jem at August 17, 2006 03:42 PM
I kinda like the song myself and I love Dilana's voice though I do agree I felt like I was having an 80's flashback..lol.
Just got finished listening to the show you and Steve did for Rocklive, really cool. Now I want to know what the second most annoying question that people ask you. I hope that your able to post the show your doing later.
you rock babe
Posted by: Noelle at August 17, 2006 03:42 PM
I totally get that you dont have input in who stays or goes but i dont get how a band can last when all of their musicians have other projects. Tommy has some crue stuff, and his solo work, gilby has solo stuff and jason has a complete band that he still tours with. How is supernova going to last longer then one tour and one c.d. (possibly 2) with all of these prior commitments. INXS was just replacing someone, not forming a whole new band.
Posted by: Tammy at August 17, 2006 03:49 PM
I listened to Love Line when I was still in a very abusive situation, and I swear Dr. Drew saved my ass~~~ Those 2 are excellent free therapy, for children of all ages! (I know He is gone)
(well, I haven't listened in a while as I work days now, but u know I am so fu**ing there ppl!!)
Posted by: Carly at August 17, 2006 03:50 PM
The Panic Channel? I'm in!!!
Supernova? Nayno.
Steven Colbert would give them his "wag of the finger" and they might go on to receive "The Worst Person In The World" award on countdown.
Love your comments on the show...I do think you have all been giving Patrice unwarrented grief. She's a respectable artist and I have to know that you know that.
Love Line - Can't Wait!
Posted by: Consent To Treatment at August 17, 2006 03:51 PM
Hi Dave,
I know all about the conspiracy of the "Ass Effect" - don't even pretend that you don't.
The camera is always zooming to Lukas for his reaction and showing a worried or serious expression. This makes it seem as though he is upset about the other contestants. In all fairness, he is not the only one sitting there and the camera could show some of the others but thats just my opinion.
Lukas is the one who could save this band if they truly want to succeed.
Posted by: KuTiki at August 17, 2006 03:56 PM
hi dave! have a great day! have i said how much i love the cd lately? loophole is an awesome song as well!
Posted by: MoonRider613 aka heather at August 17, 2006 03:57 PM
CRAZY!!! over 300 posts...and not even about DAVE!! Dudes, I give my opinion, but then I say something to the guy whose BLOG it is..sorry for shouting,but..you know, Tommy has a myspace!
Dave,I've said this before, you just exude this accessibility, people feel comfortable saying just about anything here, the message boards lately have been full of censorship, you take it all...good, bad, and ugly.
Can't wait for Rockline, but I gotta be honest, I miss you and Billy giving sex and love advice on CFR more..remember,you taught me about the 'Barbershop'?
Hoping to hear you on CFR and SRL someday soon.
love
jezzi(God don't like ugly)
Posted by: jezebel at August 17, 2006 04:02 PM
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Come on down and listen to (ONe)!
Win prizes!
Wednesday, August 23
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Posted by: sue at August 17, 2006 04:03 PM
Umm...Savvy...I know you live there, don't you?! I don't see your name on the RSVP list yet, lady!! Get it in gear and come hang w/us!
Posted by: sue at August 17, 2006 04:04 PM
Hey Dave,
Good blog today you showed some guts for even posting. Congrats on the new CD.
Posted by: Shawn at August 17, 2006 04:05 PM
Dave,
Just wanted to let you know my wife just bought me the last copy (at Target anyway) of your new c.d. She listened to it first and brought it home and I listened to it this morning and we both love it!! I have to go and by my own copy now because she wants it back!! Very tasteful music, it ROCKS!!!!!
Posted by: Kevin Kaluzok at August 17, 2006 04:07 PM
Love your feedback Dave.
The SN song made a really bad comparison with the songs on ONe. Those are some awesome tunes, the SN song was pretty bland.
How freaking cold is it in that studio? Jason wears gloves, people are in jackets and yet it's summer there in LA. Turn up the heat and everyone get their kit off I say. *grin*
If nothing else, this Rockstar show sure is entertaining. Love it, hate it, disagree or not it's capturing people's attention. It's certainly got mine.
Posted by: Nexus at August 17, 2006 04:08 PM
Hey Dave,
I totally agreed with your comments towards Storm the other night! I couldn't help but laugh but totally agree at the same time! Hopefully she gets a better song next time even though she's not my fav!
As for Dilana fronting the band I think she did what she wanted to do with the song and the band and she did alright, I wasn't crazy about the song and her performance was kind of boring to me and as for the girls well I have no comment I agree with most of what people have been saying about that and I hope you do get to ask Gilby about it.
I do have a question for you that I would like you to answer if you could sometime, a few people on the "WE ARE THE LUKATICS!" thread on the Rock Star Supernova Message boards (which I am a proud member of) have been saying that they think that Lukas might be better off on his own with out Supernova... I was just wondering what your thoughts are on that?? In my opinion I think he just might be, he is a wonderful performer, who can sing, write, play and he just takes me into this whole other world when he sings he is a "true performer" in my eyes and I don't think he needs the band to go to the top, but at the same time I can see how much it means to him to be there and how much he wants to win and when he does get the gig I'll be just as happy, as long as he gets to write some of the songs for them eventually and give them the Lukas apeal! (Oh and I hope they come to Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada if he fronts them or if he ends up on his own ;) ) Well I'm glad you actually respond to some of the comments and I hope you will respond to mine! Thanks!!! You're a big part of the show and I love hearing your comments to the contestants every time!! Thanks Dave!
From Kristy
Halifax, NS
Posted by: Kristy at August 17, 2006 04:08 PM
P.S.~~~~ Since I working, and I mean WORKing, I just skimmed the blog today and as I reread now I just want to say how impressed I am Dave! You read all posts! How cool.
LuvNpiece,
ck
Posted by: Carly at August 17, 2006 04:09 PM
I think I'm going to nickname you "Dave the diplomat," now. ;-) Thanks for your straightforward and well reasoned response. I think we all know you have your role and responsibilities on the show and it’s astute if you stay clear of ‘tempests in teacups.’ Your openness, generosity and intelligent discourse are always refreshing. Have fun on “Love Line� tonight. :-) Like the song says, “all we need is love,� right? ;-) I’ve always said love is the most powerful force in the universe, and your love and respect for your friends and supporters shines through in your posts. Thanks, man. As for “Supernova:� the band will be what it will be. It’s not like there’s a lack of amazing bands to rock out to *polishes TPC CD case* LOL, no matter what happens with them.
Posted by: Sanlin at August 17, 2006 04:12 PM
Dave, I've read all your blogs and I have never replied to them here but I've talked about them in other boards. I just wanna say that I'm glad you take the time to read everyones opinions and reply to them. As for the whole SN thing last night I just wanted to say that I disliked it also, but I'll give my reasons. Tommy, Jason and Gilby are NO DOUBT very talented guys, and I feel Dilana is an ok singer but she just doesn't do anything for me...I dunno just not my style but hey everyone is different. I thought the lyrics and meldoys were.....horrible. I don't remember a single lyric and as Tommy said AFTER DILANA'S FIRST SONG CLINIC SONG "I can't remember the lyrics, and that is NOT good". I thought that the track itself is not bad, without the singing I actually liked it. I think that song needs mega work in the lyric department and maybe the song would turn out ok. I thought that the dancers were just kinda cheesy, and with the Jill thing I was pissed about how Gilby insulted her then they had the dancers but from reading what you said of it I guess you're right and that there is a difference, but I just didn't like the dancers:P Yes they danced like they were payed to but like I said....I thought it was mega cheesy. So I myself am NOT going for Dilana, I personally like Lukas alot but it's because I feel he has many sides to his voice and they all sound good, his stage presence is undenieable and great, his style and look is also a plus and his song writing ability is fantastic, his lyrics are good and I can connect with some. I think he would best suit the band for those reasons, he would just bring something special to the band. But that is just MY OPINION, I am geussing alot of other people loved Dilana in that song but I just didn't like it. I ofcourse am not blaming her though seeing as she didn't write the song.
Anyways, thanks for changing my view a little on this because you do make good points. I haven't given up hope on SN, they are amazingly talented and that was just one bad song.
Looking forward to who plays with them next, what song they do and how it turns out.
-xx-Jordan Mary Dawn-xx-
Posted by: JordanMaryDawn at August 17, 2006 04:14 PM
Well now, I guess I won't comment on SN, I will just go to their site and tell them how I feel.
I just thank God that you guys don't have any GO GO DANCERS on stage when you perform. Put those girls back in the cages where they belong!!! HaHa
Dave, I can just see you sitting on sofa with your legs barely touching the floor saying "Hi I'm DR. Ruth" haha. What does sex and dating have to do with love?
Posted by: Linda at August 17, 2006 04:14 PM
Could you suggest to SN that they need a good songwriter. It's crucial that they pick Lukas. For the survival of this band.
Posted by: Jodi at August 17, 2006 04:15 PM
Dave,
I am surprised you have time to read ALL the comments with your busy life, but thank you for doing so. As for RSSN, I thought they were good and will only get better. I had some of the best times of my life in the late 80’s, and don’t mind going back there. I do, however, wish they would do two or three people eliminations more often because, no matter how much some have grown or changed, it’s not enough to front Supernova.
Now my only problem is sticking to my own opinion on who the front person should be. I guess it’s my split personality. One day I think Dilana or Toby can do it and other days I wish there would be this twist in the show were they bring in five new people so try out. I really feel that there is really no perfect fit for Supernova out of the remaining contestants, it’s just a matte of finding the best fit and of course the guys agreeing on it. As someone who has never been to a concert in all of my 33 years of life, I’m not exactly the best person to ask.
Posted by: sexygiest at August 17, 2006 04:17 PM
Dave,
we totally agree with the Zayra elimination! She should have been gone a while ago. A lot of people say how much you like Lukas as a performer;at first we liked him until every song started sounding the same. As you said, you don't make the decisions as to who gets cut. Dilana has a great sound and we hope she makes it. As for her singing the first song, everyone needs to get over it; they rest will get a chance too. Although Lukas looked really pissed or maybe he was still hungover. Oh, and a lot of the performers used the "we just got back from Vegas and were hungover, tired whatever excuse" when SN critiqued their performances, lame excuses. Thanks Dave, we really enjoy the show!
Posted by: E77 at August 17, 2006 04:18 PM
I really really really thought I was going to die of laughter when Dilana did that Michael Jackson kick and all the Forty Deuce dancers were grinding around her. TOO MUCH! I had to rewind several times and be like "Did she just do a Michael Jackson kick?? She DID NOT just do a Michael Jackson kick!! OMG YES SHE DID!!"
I am still laughing. That was a complete mess.
Posted by: Amy at August 17, 2006 04:20 PM
Dave, the Panic Channel album is fantastic, been listening to it non-stop.
Lukas or Storm should win this thing. Dilana scares me.
I also hope that although it's not your band Dave, you let the guys know what the reaction of the "fans" is like. I, like most others, was disappointed by the song. All 3 guys are better than that.
The guitar and bass of the track was similar to what I expected, but to be honest, I expected more from T.Lee. I expected more of a funky kinda fresher sounding beat.
Posted by: Chris at August 17, 2006 04:21 PM
Kristy, after reading your comment about Lukas, I have to respond. SN are always saying they don't want a singer who will disappear in front of them. In my opinion, I think SN will disappear behind Lukas. He is so compelling to watch, that I wouldn't notice anyone else. Well, unless you were playing by his side Dave, which I think would be awesome!
Posted by: Linda at August 17, 2006 04:23 PM
dave- I just wanted to say that you are such a cool guy, I love how you tell everyone whats going on and how involved you are with your fans and how you read all of the comments and keep up with them. I've enjoyed reading your blog, I can just tell you're a neat person. I hope all is well with you
Posted by: Al at August 17, 2006 04:23 PM
Oh and just wondering one this, what is up with Patrice and Magni BOTH doing songs that were already done on the show, ironiclly by Lukas. Lukas just did an amazing performance to Creep last week, got a standing O, got the encore, then Magni goes and does it this week? I'm just confussed. As for Patrice doing Celebrity Skin, yes Lukas totally messed it up and it was a few weeks ago, but why go and do it after it's already been done on the show? I was just wondering if maybe the song selections were limited? Anybody know?
-xx-Jordan Mary Dawn-xx-
Posted by: JordanMaryDawn at August 17, 2006 04:26 PM
What would we do without you Dave?? Been listening to the new Panic Channel all day, it's stellar!
I think SN are missing something with their musical direction and hopefully their new singer will be a 1/4 partner in the band and not just an employee/trained monkey. The new singer will help bridge the gap that I think most people are feeling after hearing SN's new song. It was 80s hair band music, no doubt. But it does have its merits. Take a band like The Darkness for instance - no huge in the States exactly, but their following in the UK, Australia and Europe is tremendous. They're a throwback to the late 70s/ early 80s but they make it work because they recognize that they can't do it without having that little spark of commonality with the audience of today. They celebrate the old style, but they don't cookie cutter copy it. The content of their songs are often silly, but the underlining inspiration behind the songs aren't about booze, chicks and partying. Even the song "Knockers", which sure is about how great a good looking pair of tits are, is also about a once broken relationship being repaired. All their music has DEPTH. Even the anthem "Get Your Hands Off My Woman (Motherfucker)"!
I didn't get any emotional hook from SN's song, the song was fun and catchy, sure, but forgettable because there was nothing in it that could draw me back in.
The remaining contestants on SN are coming from a different vein. I've been listening to their solo stuff - Ryan, Storm and Lukas - holy shit do they have some mad skills when it comes to hooking you with their melodies, lyrics and emotional content!
The way I see it, the SN guys need a frontman/woman who can bridge this gap (is it a generation gap? maybe, tho Storm is 37). With age in consideration, I suspect most of the contestant listened to alternative, grunge, and even you Dave, during their formative teen years. As Magni said, his generation's anthem was Radiohead's Creep. It wasn't Poison's Unskinny Bop. The remaining contestants can take what SN has and make it current, appealing to more than one era of fans.
Are SN even open to the ideas that someone like Lukas has? He's got some soul tearing songs. "Lonely Ones" - now there's a song that makes you feel gutted and it ROCKS HARD. Can SN deal with songs that aren't about booze, chicks and parties? If Lukas wrote another song about his terrible childhood and living on the streets at 14 years old, could SN write music that did it justice?
After the alternative and grunge movement Rock n' Roll changed, it evolved and all but killed 80s hair metal but hell yes, I can see SN's style becoming cool and popular again, BUT it can't be what it was, it must EVOLVE it can't stand on its own anymore it must have a new element to suceed and I pray SN recognize that and let their new lead singer meld their style with the band's and create something new that'll hook the masses.
DAVE, you said it when you countered Jill's statement about everything in rock had been done before. IT HASN'T!! Supernova could really be new and innovative if they want to. I personally can see Lukas, Magni, Ryan or Storm being able to do it.
Actually, maybe just Lukas and Storm - they've got a bit of something glamorous in them ;)
Whew, that was a mouthful - I hope PANIC CHANNEL tours, 'cause I wanna see some kick ass, CURRENT, innovative rock and dude, you have IT.
I hope SN's new singer can help them get an IT factor, 'cause I don't see it yet.
Posted by: Ozma at August 17, 2006 04:26 PM
Dave your getting huge. i remeber the first time i saw the panic channel. It was actually the first time the panic channel was on stage together. you played the who. it was awsome. and i saw a video on mtv!!!!!!!!! your just getting huge man the band is gonna go far
Posted by: Alec from camp teddy at August 17, 2006 04:28 PM
Dave, Thanks for reading and responding to some of the concerns raised in regards to the last RSSN episode. I like how we have a direct vein to the show through this board. -just wanted to say thanks for that and the new CD is awesome.
Back to the RSSN song... As an avid rock enthusiast... I wasn't impressed. But that's OK. It allows for future performances to show the how much more SN can improve, hopefully. I think in terms of strategery, the original song last night was a good opener, start low, and then build. I am not sure it will be possible to do worse, so in contrast, other contestants will look better. This works for me, as I dont understand how Dilana's voice is attractive to any listener. Sometimes, she sounds like thos art kids who make music with sounds from an electronic machine. sound art. not a voice. anyhow, I feel that Storm, Magni and Lukas have the chops to work with this band, experience is incredibly important. I look forward to better songwriting, less cliche and more modern, as that was the type of sound I was expecting from the SN guys. I look forward to the rest of the season and to some killer music.
Posted by: disinterestedyouth at August 17, 2006 04:30 PM
Dave,
Just wanted to tell ya how much I love TPC's album...very eclectic in my opinion, but in my eyes thats a good thing since I love many different styles of music. Great job on everything from lyrics to vocals and musicianship.
As for Rockstar...I dont know why everyone is getting so hyper about it...The Supernova song was okay...didnt blow me away, but I think it should be kept in mind that it is not the final product either. There will be changes made and production done...it may sound better once its recorded. There are only 3 singers on the show I dont get bored with (Dilana, Lukas, and Ryan)the others induce quick channel hopping while they sing and I only turn back when its time for the guys comments. Patrice looks like some sort of weird soccer mom and for the life of me I do not understand the rage over Toby.
Anyway...just wanted to pop in and give ya props on oNe and say that I cant wait til you guys tour more...hoping you will hit Ohio this time.
As always...wish you the best in everything ;)
Posted by: Judi at August 17, 2006 04:36 PM
That supernova performance was horrific!..it was pure cheese. The whole thing remided me of a bad 80's band.....and another thing Im wondering why jason keeps ragging Lukas about his vocals and what he's capable of..yet after watching that mess last night,Im amazed..because that song surely didnt require much vocal talent at alll, Dilana proved that....
Posted by: Td at August 17, 2006 04:43 PM
oops** Since I AM working** My Prada wearing boss is watching my every move so, ya know....
Posted by: Carly at August 17, 2006 04:43 PM
Special request here. Can you do RockStar on HBO next season? That way maybe I can hear someone cover "Crazy Bitch" by Buckcherry on the show instead of "I Will Survive." :)
Posted by: ALP in FL at August 17, 2006 04:48 PM
HOLY Batman! DUDE you post a new blog at 2:45pm and there is already 45 responses?
Sept 17th can't come fast enough for me.
Thanks to Sue for our daily spam about our NYC TPC CD Listening party Wed 8/23 Snitch 49 W. 21st St NYC (Guess you can't wait till 8/24 so we'll stop posting blog comments about it ;-)) And thank you Jezz for pointing out who's blog this really is!! :-D
PLEASE PLEASE Podcast the "love line" show!! It would be on at 1am in NY! I soooooooooo have to hear this!!
Have a ball doing the show tonight!
Posted by: Robin at August 17, 2006 04:51 PM
Picked up ONe yesterday, I am halfway through listening to it for the 2nd time...Bloody Mary, Left to Lose, Said you'd be and She Won't Last are jams!! to me the albums starts off great and kind of slows down towards the end, good songs, just wish the latter tracks rocked a little more. Just my opinion.
So I go to Circuit City to get me free shirt and walk up to the counter to buy the CD and the little pissant ringing me up doesn't say shit about the shirt....so I ask him if I get a free shirt with this? and he looks at me kind of funny and says "Yeah, we have some left" and gives me one like I was giving him a hard time for asking for the free shirt.
Henry Rollins had it right about preferring to do automated transactions than dealing with Morons. (Check out The Henry Rollins Show on IFC and IFC.com....awesome, If Henry ran for Prez he'd have my vote!!)
Thanx Dave for giving me a new cd to listen to on my long commute. Peace.
Posted by: Mike at August 17, 2006 04:57 PM
Dave,
I'm really surprised you spent 3/4 of your response defending the dancers when the majority of the posts were directed at the sucky song and/or Dilana. *scratches head*
Posted by: Sparky at August 17, 2006 05:02 PM
Dave,
I have to tell you, Lucas was amazing doing Hero. I had to watch it over and over again. He bugs me with all his make-up and wierd gloves...but I think he has IT. Something damn compelling about this guy. I worry that the band may not go for him cause he could upstage them eventually.
Oh, and one more thing...you are so damn hot, in a satanic kinda way...rock on!
Jenny
Posted by: Jenny at August 17, 2006 05:05 PM
It is very encouraging to know that you read the posts.... You don't need to explain yourself regarding the grinding, if they don't get it that is their problem and probably isn't the only thing they aren't getting. Got the cd yesterday, love it!
Delania, Lukas, Iceland and Australia are fantastic. Storm is weird, she looks like she is acting out the words on her face. But it is you that keeps me tuning in every week, you are a vision! XOXO
Posted by: Coco at August 17, 2006 05:08 PM
GODDDDDDDAMN THAT BROOKE XANAXED BURKE WEARS SOME SILLY OUTIFTS, BUT MOTHER OF BABBLING JESUS; SHE IS A SMOKING HOT PROZACED-BRUNETTE-BARBIE!!!!
FORGET ALL THE FAKE ROCK, BLOG-SYCHOPHANTS - LISTEN TO www.dimmer.co.nz REAL music, un-tarnished by L.A. whoredom.
I feel like a tribe of pygmies trying to kill an African Elephant with blow-darts!
come on you blog people, this whole concept stinks..do you think Supernova will come close to the fury of any of their respective careers (well, Tommy/Jason - Gilby dosnt count)???? the new song is shit. the reason is, because they are all tired shiters who just want more $$ and fame, and none of them can write cutting edge, passionate, bold, daring new music.
Miles Davis continued to discover, evolve, mutate right to his death, didnt give a fuck what anyone thought. He would be disgusted, as would Hutchence by this $$orgy.
will these guys hit their artistic pinnacles with this project?? or are they just in it for the $$$ like I (know) suspect.
will Navarro's Panic Channel come close to shining the shoes of the truly great period of his life 87 thru 91 with (no) JA? No.
Dave, do you remeber that gig in Auckland New Zealand in 91 man?? Lots here still do. That was rock. THAT'S why you are a famous celeb now. Cos you used to genuinely ROCK.
Baahhh, I'm off to swig some Jack.
Posted by: DaveAklNZ at August 17, 2006 05:18 PM
Dave, You write: "First of all let me start off by saying that my job on the show, is to critique and give my opinions on the contestants that are auditioning, not on Supernova." Well if that's true you did some extra work last night when you said: "Brooke, I got to tell you these guys are awesome. . . . Great Job Guys." Maybe you made a mistake and meant to say "ASS-some" like "you guys smell like my ass," but I don't think so. So you praised that drivel put out by the guys and Dilanna. Now you duck all the WTF comments of your fans by saying: Not my job boys. That chickenshit response smells pretty ass-some from here Dave.
Posted by: Dingo Dog at August 17, 2006 05:18 PM
Dave,
You read all 300 plus comments?!?!? You are certainly dedicated to your fans. A big thanks for that! Your insight into the show definitely helps.
Posted by: SG at August 17, 2006 05:21 PM
67ers: Is Dave on tonights Carson Daly Show or have I missed it??
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 17, 2006 05:23 PM
So tell us, how bad was Jason crying over his beloved Zayra leaving the show? OMG, I can see his hard-on for her all the way here in Seal Beach.
Can't wait to hear you guys on Loveline tonight. I love Dr. Drew!
Tell Toby there's I him to put his joey in my pouch and hop all over the outback.
Posted by: LA at August 17, 2006 05:25 PM
hey SG...maybe...just maybe....just because Dave SAYS he reads the post...maybe...doesnt mean he ...REALLY does read the posts...
Timothy Leary once said 'question authority'. In NZ we maybe dont believe everything we read as gospel like Americans do...ironic when our country is so famous for having sheep..
Posted by: DaveAklNZ at August 17, 2006 05:26 PM
Dave - great to hear the voice of reason...again.
Posted by: Nikki at August 17, 2006 05:27 PM
Dave, I can just see you sitting on the sofa with your legs barely touching the floor saying Hi, I'm Dr. Ruth. Well I meant FEET not LEGS, and if I was talking about another part of your anatomy, it would be tucked under the sofa!!!! ha ha
Posted by: Linda at August 17, 2006 05:30 PM
dave, if you read all of that, wow man. I mean, I knew I hated the song, but...well, really, it's why the show rocks. It doesn't matter that I don't really care for supernova, the band. I like the new singers. But the fan base of the show sure is...vocal!
Next year though, I hope RS doesn't go again in the direction of the 'superband'. I'd rather see either another band looking for a singer ala INXS, or a lead singer for the House Band, which rocks hard anyway. but this season has been fun.
Posted by: lpmiller at August 17, 2006 05:31 PM
Breakfast In Central Park -- Performed by Dilana Smith -- Music & Lyrics: Jan Koster
Uh-oh, this is not good - (see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1097674 and http://www.redbullet.nl/public/media/breakfast.htm for a video of the following)
All the nightbirds gather on Houston & Bleecker
Celluar phones, pagers & beepers
They go yeah, life's a party you know
So bring your dry martinis your Liz Claiborne specs
Your Dolce & Gabbana your buds & your Becks
And go yea, lets's get this show on the road
So go up to 57th to Central Park West
Put on your skates & a see-through dress
Like a Village reject with Manhattan class
Now get out of the powder room girl
And show me some New York ass!
Breakfast in Central Park
Loungin' in the sun be cool just smile
Breakfast in Central Park
Sidewalk, catwalk, bohemian style
Breakfast in Central Park
Get a little rollin' stoned
Now they got red, white, blue, green & yellow wigs
Pavarotti, chili peppers all in the mix
They go yea, Lauren Hill's queen of club
So take the 5 to 57th to Central Park South
Get on your boards and let it all hang out
Like a SoHo hippie with a lot of cloud
Wipe the mace off your face boy
And gimme some New York mouth
So take the 5 to 57th to Central Park South
Just like the 4th of July let it all hang out
Is it Jersey smog or jamaican cloud?
Baby take a wild, wild guess
Ain't nothin' like a jumpin' jack flash
Oh it's gotta be New York it must be that New York grass!
Posted by: werlkj at August 17, 2006 05:33 PM
wow - it's a TV show. it's entertainment. apparently ppl are watching cause they sure know enough about it to bitch. kinda supports the whole "there's a lot of haters out there". my thing? fun+lite+tv=IT'S NOT REAL. real is when the album comes out & whatever tour happens & we get to see/hear them live. THEN we will know if they are a band or not.
LOVE "ONe". hopefully the fall tour will be full blown & we get to see you here in MPLS again.
Posted by: mary at August 17, 2006 05:36 PM
Gday Dave
Read your commets daily man its a ritual. Spot on comment by the way... is it just me or is david newsted abit of an old fashioned guy watching him complain that Toby and Lukas got wasted at a party isnt that what rocks about. anyways dig ur tats man and u so have to put the hit on Brooke Burke i mean my god shes hot.
Ps. did u try slamming zayara? those outfits yum
Rock on man
Peace
pete
Posted by: Pete From Australia at August 17, 2006 05:40 PM
Yes, Joanne a repeat of an earlier appearance by Dave is on tonight. I don't know if I can stay up that late again........AMAZIN=when I posted last night there were about 175 posts. Great to hear all the input and enthusiasm people! I guess I really didn't think the song that SN did was that bad, then again, I love 80's metal so? I ordered ONe through Amazon and will get it shortly. Have fun on the show tonight= Thanx for all you do.........luv ya ♥Db
Posted by: Danni at August 17, 2006 05:41 PM
Ok, I'am not going to talk about Rock Star anymore.
if I do..someone slap a piece of duct tape over my mouth please.
I did hear the 13th track on (ONe) was Chicago..Yay..That's really cool. Now I can stop talking about that too.
As per the comment you made saying something like "I'm not seeing ANYONE"....Ppl still concerned about that huh? Odd, if it's not me you're dating I could care less..hehehe
I'm defintaly getting the cd tomorrow! (I'm a slacker)
You rock! Have a greta night!
Posted by: Diane/FRI13th at August 17, 2006 05:47 PM
Dave,
Do you still stand by your comment today that Supernova was "amazing?" I think it would have been great to see the band get feedback from the contestants and the audience. I was also taken aback that you were so surprised to see Storm in the bottom 5 when you the night before ripped her a new one. Chose your words wisely bro.
Posted by: X at August 17, 2006 05:47 PM
Hey Dave, that's a great response to the firestorm in here earlier. I get your point about Gilby's issue with Jill - that's what you hire the strippers for - the lead singer has a different job. The Forty Deuce girls may be fabulous, but none of them are going to be fronting a band - they're scenery. The lead singer should be more than scenery.
I'm going to have to listen to the SN tune again and see if I still hate it. Maybe it's because Dilana does nothing for me. Can't wait to see the other hamsters perform with them and watch how the dynamics change.
I have to add how cool it is that you read all the comments and address the things that stand out to you. And apologies for not starting off my previous SN rants with a "hello" to you. As someone else pointed out, that's pretty rude since it's your blog. And who knew you were so responsive? Haven't heard your stuff with TPC yet but looking forward to giving it a listen.
Posted by: Suzanne at August 17, 2006 05:51 PM
I have to hand it to you Dave, you're a MASTER politician.
Your logic regarding the Gilby vs Stripper Girllz is fairly flawless but I think we both know it's a looong stretch. And more to the point, Supernova have been dishing the hard criticism on this show and not taking excuses - They're big boys, the same rules should apply. I think if one of the rockers had presented Supernova with what they presented the rockers with, then they'd have been roasted. Their performance was totally stilted, their song arrangement sucked (though as pointed out Lukas's version was actually good, so it could be salvaged), and they had zero chemistry on stage. And the 80's cheese effect does NOT help fill out arena tours, as Coldplay, U2, Killers, Prodigy, Green Day, Bowie, Audioslave, Radiohead etc can prove. Great songs fill arenas. Strippers fill strip clubs.
Having just re-watched the show I think I see what Lukas's reaction shots were really showing; not
"Man am I pissed they picked Dilana", more
"Did I waste all my time pitching for THIS? THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE?"
So on to more 6767-type stuff, and a question for the Sunday 10:
Does Tommy owe the owner of the Forty Deuce money or something?
Posted by: slutmonkey57b at August 17, 2006 05:56 PM
ALERT- we gotta get Montgomery Gentry out of the Artist of the month, I mean come on fans
go here:
http://music.msn.com/music/artistofthemonth
Vote for........the sexy beasts!
Posted by: Danni at August 17, 2006 06:07 PM
Dave, that was a real classy reply you have put up today and I really respect how you've addressed watchers' viewpoints in a very coherent fashion. I really think SN has brought this on themselves by their repeated "we want you to bring the rock" type of statements they have been uttering for the last several weeks. Obviously you're not in control of their musical direction and are merely observing your impressions of the performers just like we as an audience are.
FWIW I think your explanation of the justification of the dancing girls is spot-on that there is a huge difference between Jill and these dancing girls even if the whole thing is nothing new and merely reminded me of Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" video.
Posted by: RB at August 17, 2006 06:11 PM
Thx Danni-
Awesome - I get a second chance to see the show since I missed it the first time around :)
Daly and Loveline- Its a DN night! Yayyyy!
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 17, 2006 06:12 PM
Dave...i know your life is filled with both highs and lows at the moment with your split from carmen and (ONe) coming...i just wanted to let you know that my heart goes out to you with both your personal and proffesional life in the humblest way possible....
have fun dave....
in a bit man
Ric x
Posted by: ric at August 17, 2006 06:12 PM
Hey dave me again ..
Yes you got over 300 comments ..havent ya fiogured out we love ya man ..we are yer fans we suupport ya and heck if i have to sit her all night and post hello how are ya etc on seperate posts till it hits 400 i will you know ..
anyways keep rocking much love
and damn i wish i could get that song outta my head ..*she wont last in case yer wondering*I am driving my husband nuts with it ..ahh well he just needs to learn to listen to GOOD music
Posted by: JewlCanadainGirl at August 17, 2006 06:15 PM
Hi Dave.
Regarding the Supernova track. I think it's been very entertaining to see the hype building up from week to week about the awesome power and musical wizardry that these three guys have in store for us all. The main worry is to find the singer who will not simply disappear behind the animal craziness of Tommy's drums and you can just picture the huge crowds totally loosing their minds and turning to riots after hearing them play. Well of course when they go on stage and play a song like mere mortals do, you kind of have to let go of the fantasy but come on give them a break, they are only human lunatics.
Btw, interesting move on the blonde violinist, not so subtle maybe but smooth :)
Posted by: Marvin at August 17, 2006 06:20 PM
The other Sunday 10:
Where are you lining up to see Snakes on a Motherfucking Plane, Motherfucker?
Posted by: slutmonkey57b at August 17, 2006 06:24 PM
Actions speak louder than words. Dilana got the first original song, and all of the others WON'T get that chance: each week someone is going to go home. How can SN guarantee that each rocker does an original song? Will Dilana go home next week, or will it be the same person who does the original? Send anyone else home other than those two, and that person will leave before doing an original song. Now tell me SN didn't prefer Dilana in a way that signals she's won. I'm not watching or voting any longer. Will Brooke announce it if voting starts dropping off?
Posted by: Lisa from Burlington at August 17, 2006 06:26 PM
Hey Dave...
Greetings from Down Unda! :p I didn't mind the SN song, it's not a classic rock anthem, but it's not Paris Hilton manufactured cheese either *g*. I loved Dilana's stage presence - I like her voice, but Magni and Ryan's voices are better IMO. Dilana is far and away the best performer though. Depends on what the band wants. Jason does NOT want Lukas, it seems. I believe Patrice or Toby will go next. Congrats on the new album, it sounds great!
Pls bring TPC to Australia, preferably to Brisbane first! :p
Posted by: immortelle at August 17, 2006 06:27 PM
Ah.... not to add anything but the essential:
Storm Large
Storm Large and
Storm Large
Love yas,
StinkBug
Posted by: StinkBug at August 17, 2006 06:30 PM
Hey Dave, and fellow TPC fans...and of course the Aussies!!
Totally agree...bring TPC down under...will be so there!
Keeping an eye out for the mail. It is so hard waiting for the CD to drop here and there was absolutely no way I was waiting for September.
later
Maree
Posted by: Maree in Aus at August 17, 2006 06:31 PM
Diane/FR13th,
I just saw your post about Track13.
I'm in awe with Track13.
To me it sounds celestial/otherwordly.
I've played it so many times today, trying to cipher through all the sounds and trying to figure out who is doing the counted chanting.
Is this a show played in Chicago?
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 17, 2006 06:35 PM
Dave, never have a problem with what you say -tough love when stakes are high. I would, however, I like a US dollar for every "awesome" uttered on the show. Great word when used judiciously. Other suggestions: impressive, spectacular, astounding, breathtaking, phenomenal, remarkable, staggering, mind-blowing, superb, stunning, far out, formidable, mighty, mammoth. All of which I would use to describe Dilana's performance with the 'Nova last night. That combined with her presence and maturity - what more need to be said.
Would love to know why the "Z" lasted so long.
best wishes from down under,
the chick
Posted by: maverick chick at August 17, 2006 06:41 PM
Dilana and her michael jackson moves look downright cheesy. I actually dont mind sexy dancers onstage (i am a straight female : ), but supernovas dancers were more SOLID GOLD than sexy. there is a huge difference. Plus, too many of them for that size stage. 2 dancers at the most, who stay to each side of the stage. Like I said , it looked very solid gold.. I would NEVER buy a cd w/ dilana as the singer. I also could not set through more than one song of her... she sounds like a truck driver singing
Posted by: LUKASforeva at August 17, 2006 06:41 PM
Dave, that is so cool that you read all these posts. You are very dedicated to your fans! I love it! I purchased TPC cd yesterday on my way home from vacation and finally got to listen to it last night and all today. I love it! They are all wonderful songs! I can't say I really have a favorite because I love them all.
As for the song selection each week, my thoughts are that they (SN) pick songs from all types of music to see the singers different vocal ranges. I think that is very smart so they can see if they have something in mind if any of the singers can do it.
I thought Diliana sang great last night. She has a voice that can sound either feminine or manly. I think she would be good for SN but Ryan has surprised me the last couple weeks. Lucas, I am not too sure about him. I missed this week's performance that aired on Tuesday night but the couple before I wasn't impressed with. He bugs me too whenever SN picks for an encore or for singing with them because he rolls his eyes since he is not picked. Give me a break! Take it like a man and use that to think humm what can I do better so I can be the one picked? He reminds me of my seven year old daughter. Sorry to vent about him but he does bug me with that. I know he is one of your favorites too.
I will sound asleep when you are on loveline tonight (Midwest). If you can podcast it, that would be great.
Keep it real! Love ya!
Posted by: SheilaB at August 17, 2006 06:42 PM
Hi dave
that was one cornball of a performance (if i can call it that) from sn and that beatch dilana. Cant stand her and her voice reminds me of fingernails on a chalkboard. awful
LUKAS IS PERFECT FOR SUPERNOVA...or are you afraid lukas is better than your lead singer? I think that is the reason you pick dil. you dont want supernova showing up your little band....LETS SEE lukas is a better singer, more stage presence, hell of alot sexier, more mysterious, did i mention a better singer by far, charismatic, and just an all around better entertainer than your singer in the panic channel.. I think we know why you dont want lukas to be the singer of supernova now LOL
Posted by: janiesaddiction at August 17, 2006 06:57 PM
SHEILAB
THAT IS CALLED EDITING!!!! THEY FILM THE ROCKERS SITTING IN THE POD FOR QUITE AWHILE BEFORE THE SHOW EVEN STARTS... WHY SO THEY CAN GET DIFFERENT REACTIONS TO EDIT IN FOR THE SHOW...
Posted by: janiesaddiction at August 17, 2006 07:01 PM
Hi Dave
another SN question: what happened to all those guest judges that were initially mentioned?
Posted by: Nexus at August 17, 2006 07:06 PM
Hi Dave! Damn, I wonder if I can get that show out here...and I wonder to what rumour you are referring to? :D
I wish the clips of the practice with SN had been longer..and to those rabid Lukas fans, didn't you hear his brief take on their new song? Yuck!
Man, I am beat..Dave, how do you do it? You are amazing! *Big Hugs* M
PS I typo'ed vibrato a few posts ago.
Posted by: merrymagic at August 17, 2006 07:20 PM
Last night was just nuts. From the comments on the boards, etc., one would have thought SN and Dilana had sacrificed a small child on stage or something.
SN could gleem some good feedback from the boards on the performance if they could stomach sifting through the emotionally charged comments that were more because it was Dilana who was the first chosen to perform first.
What a terrible week for Dilana. First she was shown on the clip telling TLee that she is the one for the gig (us Dilana Fans respected her for that...the other Rocker Fans hated her for that and had a hatefest). Then you, Dave, posted on your blog that she was your favorite (stirred an already irritated wasp nest). THEN Dilana is chosen for the first performance with SN. Add to that, that Dilana has a huge fanbase and was already obviously worthy of a frontrunner position WITHOUT anyone's help, well those hornest's came out in droves last night. Her performing was just the last straw.
Regardless of all that, she, in my opinion deserved it and looked excellent with the boys. Dilana just flat rocks period.
I can only hope that SN can separate the intelligent remarks and critique's of their song from all the hate that was merely aimed to kill because the fans retaliated against any real or percieved favoritism shown to Dilana.
Us Dilana fans have gotten rather lazy about voting and posting because to us she looked like a shoe-in. Looks like it's "game on" now though....the non-Dilana fans are out for blood and will be voting like crazy for anyone but her.
Regardless of all that, there is still some good information SN should take into consideration...just need to separate the jealous shit from the good stuff.
As for my opinion of the song itself...it probably isn't going platinum but felt it was a good rocking concert song that would be enjoyed during a live performance.
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 07:23 PM
imho re: the SN song...
it's not that it was the worst song in history... it's that SN kept saying how original and new their music was going to be... and kept hammering it into the Rockers heads that that's what they wanted their singer to be... then they deliver a semi-quasi 80's sounding song... like i stated, not the worst song, but definitely not original or new in any way...
imho re: the dancers vs. jill...
Gilby was speaking of female singers/musicians using sex ahead of talent... the dancers well they were there to sex up the performance...
Posted by: Savvy at August 17, 2006 07:32 PM
You're doing a great job on Supernova!! I think you honestly give the best advice possible.The thing that makes you so good at this is because you can be objective and yet maybe point out weaknesses or strenghts that Supernova may not have noticed. Keep up the good work!!
My brother saw your show in Chicago and said it kicked ass. He e-mailed me some great photos you look awesome!!
Posted by: Tracy McQueenie at August 17, 2006 07:39 PM
Another vote to podcast the Loveline interview....
Posted by: angela at August 17, 2006 07:44 PM
Judging by the responses here (and on many other boards), Lukas is clearly preferred. I know SN has to check on this stuff. They want this to be huge right out of the gates. Lukas is the best shot. Dilana is good, but it is a risk. And, not to be sexist, a guy would fare better in a band such as this. Chicks dig Lukas. That's important (right Dave?). Guys don't really dig Dilana. Sure, she's tough and has character, but she's not all that sexy. It sounds superficial, but that's how these decisions will be made.
Posted by: jack at August 17, 2006 07:49 PM
Alot of guys dig Dilana as a front for Supernova!
Posted by: Savvy at August 17, 2006 07:58 PM
WOW!!! All I have to say is that Dave you are THE FUCKIN' man!!! The fact that your site has that much interest, (by the way, much more that that of the actual band.) Your comments are right on; and, as you said on SRL, they will be judged every day, as you are, of their career. Next up - Patrice. Dave, thanks to you!
Posted by: Tom at August 17, 2006 07:59 PM
Jack, "guys don't really dig Dilana." Are you INSANE. I bet your a big Leo Sayer fan.
Posted by: Tom at August 17, 2006 08:03 PM
I'm a little late on this conversation but I have to say, I didn't really care for the SN track. But, thats just one song and it all depends on who is singing it and how its presented. Seeing these guys on stage trying to write music has got to be the most taxing thing ever. You've got a lot riding on the fact that all three are legends so you would expect whatever they do to sound golden. Its like jumping in bed with someone for the first time and they are already comparing you to pornstar-quality sex before even taking your clothes off. I do have a feeling that as soon as they choose someone that they will go back into the studio and write some more. The process of the band shouldn't just be fill in the empty space but a collaborative effort. In the brief segment that I heard Dilana's writing, i wasn't exactly impressed with her lyrics...but damn that girl can sing. I don't envy the job you have because I know that there are moments that you've sat there and said "what the hell are you guys thinking". Z made for fantastic television...at least people either hated or loved her but everyone wanted to see what she was going to do next. Now, we just want to get to the end and see who wins. sorry for thread jacking. I'm long winded. cheers
Posted by: Plurge at August 17, 2006 08:11 PM
I think guys dig Lukas as the frontperson over Dilana. As far as a band, guys look up to people they would like to be. "I would love to be that guy" , rather than "oh, she's kind of hot". Whereas girls are more likely to prefer a person they find attractive. All of these guys are from macho rock bands. That is their base. It's weird, but true, psychology.
Posted by: jack at August 17, 2006 08:12 PM
I'm going to be really junior high school right now, but OMG, like, freaking DAVE NAVARRO just read my words!
(Hi Dave!)
So, while I have your undivided attention, it would be super "awesome" if you would say mammoth next week as kind of a shout-out to your agents.
Assuming it doesn't get edited out. Oh, I know- only say "mammoth". As in "Dude, that was a mammoth performance!", or "I don't know, man, but it just wasn't, oh...I don't know...mammoth."
Posted by: Stacey at August 17, 2006 08:13 PM
DMN< Thanx for the SRL tonight. It's been such a long time......(BOSTON) Great question and answer session. We rocked the vote on MSN! Here's to new beginnings...............just a tip, make sure the washer never gets off balance and use BOUNCE:) luv ya,db
Posted by: Danni at August 17, 2006 08:18 PM
Hey Dave,
This is the first time I've posted so just let me start off by saying I'm a fan. Also, I know some people might give you some shit about some of the comments you make on SuperNova but I just want to let you know that honestly I didn't follow you all that much before I started watching so the show kind of created a fan out of me from scratch. Here's my 2cents: I think it should come down to Toby and Dilana. I admit I'm from Oz and I'm not just saying I think Toby's awesome to be patriotic or whatever... and Dilana, well there's no comment really necessary there, she's a star and she knows it and everyone knows it. I thought she was awesome performing with the SN boys and she definitely fits into their band better than I can see any of the others doing. About that performance - a few people have mentioned they didn't like it so it makes me want to know, what did you think of the track? Like you said it's not up to you to comment on the band itself, and I haven't read all the other comments so I don't know if you've been badgered by hundreds of other people to answer the same question. If you have, sorry, but yeh I'm interested to know.
Anyway I've taken up enough comment space by now so sending my luv from halfway around the world!
Megz
Posted by: Megz at August 17, 2006 08:20 PM
"TPC on Love Line Tonight!"
I hope you cover fetishes!!! They representing a most interesting side of people!!!
Posted by: Savvy at August 17, 2006 08:23 PM
Guys don't like Dilana? You must not have your finger on the pulse of the people on the boards. I too doubted guys would have a problem with a front woman for this band. After continually reading the boards, that is very far from the truth. To my surprise, the majority of guys are digging her VERY much.
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 08:24 PM
Jack...
I wrote that about Dilana...
and wtf is "Leo Sayer"... though i have a feeling i'm not, seeing as i've never heard of him!!!
off to google then off to bed...
Posted by: Savvy at August 17, 2006 08:26 PM
i mean above comment directed to Tom...
and last time I checked, Dave, Tommy, Jason and Gilby were guys!!! as well as people posting support for her here and other places!!!
Posted by: Savvy at August 17, 2006 08:28 PM
Dave, just wanted to say The Panic Channels debut album is awesome!! Seriously rocks, I was happily surprised.
For anyone who hasn't heard it, go to AOL music and listen to the album ... you will be downloading it before getting thru the whole album, it's that good!
Posted by: heather at August 17, 2006 08:29 PM
Perhaps some guys like Dilana. I stand by my comment. Overall (according to the boards), Lukas is more popular. Nuff said..
Posted by: jack at August 17, 2006 08:31 PM
Whew, what a melee we have going here. To me, though, it's very encouraging that people of so many different lifestyles, likes, dislikes and strong opinions can come together and for the most part respectfully listen to each other and express our views.
This blog has helped enhance this season's show so much. While my family is watching the show I find myself saying quite often during commercials, "Dave said..."
I am not the 'typical' Dave follower, I'm a middle aged mother of two, basically conservative, daughter of a preacher and yet I feel welcome and at home on this blog. It is truly amazing and gives me quite a lot of hope, actually.
I think we owe that to Dave’s people skills, honesty and hands-on style. Thank you, Dave!
I appreciate the talent of all the remaining contestants. I would probably say I like Patrice the least.
I understand Lukas' charisma, though his eerie smile and resemblance to Clint Howard is a bit off-putting.
Toby started off strong for me, but has slipped in the last few weeks.
Dilana has a lot of talent and is beautiful, but her smoke damaged raspy voice isn't something I could listen to a whole lot.
Magni has become my second favorite. His laid back appealing style would probably get my concert money over some of the rest of them.
Ryan is just my all out favorite. I like the intensity, but would love to see some light heartedness from him. He could just stand there and growl if he wants to though, he’s the only one of the bunch that gets this old libido cranking again.
Storm has the most beautiful, pure voice of the bunch and I think her almost photographic memory of all songs ever written might come in handy to these beginning to age some rockers, I think she is the most perfect fit for the band. I do think she needs to tone down the recently noticeable cheerleader enthusiasm she’s adopted.
As for the song, it certainly wasn’t what I was expecting from SN. I do think it wouldn’t be quite so bad with someone else singing lead. I think it just didn’t fit Dilana’s style.
I think it was time for Zayra to go. I wish just once someone would have asked her how to pronounce her name, I think I counted it being said at least 4 different ways last night. I thought Zayra's parting remarks were touching and sweet.
Have a great week, everyone!
Posted by: Debbie at August 17, 2006 08:32 PM
Producer Dave Talks Back
Producer Dave from the Rockstar show posted a defense of last night's Supernova song.
Fellow Rockers
I appreciate everyone’s commitment to the show. I appreciate the fans who come to every show, cheer their asses off and, hopefully, have a great time. I appreciate the people who contribute to this forum…the true fans, who love the show, or the rockers, or Brooke, or the band, or just rock and roll on TV, because it is so rare.
We work 7 days a week producing 3 shows a week because we love the music, the rockers, the concept and because it is actually a pretty fun show to work on. No complaints.
Now, I have rarely stated my opinion on this or other forums.
My role has been to give out some information every now and then that I thought you would all like to know to keep you, the most dedicated fans, happy.
So please forgive me if you feel it is out of my bounds to give some thoughts on this current thread regarding the elimination show, particularly the first performance of Supernova.
And please also know that I am just a TV producer and am not part of the SN management, band or tour.
Here goes:
While I respect everyone’s opinion and will defend their right to express it, I am completely surprised by the overwhelming hatred of the SN song and/or performance.
Now, my first instinct upon reading these posts was an understanding of the context of hearing this first SN song. We have all been waiting since March to hear what this band would song like. A “supergroup�…Guns, Metallica, Motley….Tommy, Gilby, Jason WOW!
And THIS IS IT???
Perhaps it is impossible to meet all potential expectations that we ourselves set up over the spring and summer…think about that present for Christmas you always wanted…when you got it, how good was it? Not as great as in your mind all those months.
This all might be true, or at least part of the truth
BUT I think there is something else going on. And quite frankly, it is part of the reason it is so hard to do Rock and Roll on TV for any length of time…and maybe just why Rock and Roll, the genre of music I love, is really now just a niche genre, and will continue to be.
Here it is:
3 points
1. When did rock music get so serious (and is that the problem)?
2. Give the guys (and Dilana) a break for taking a huge risk.
3. It was better than you think, and you know it.
LAST POINT FIRST: To the people who were THERE, you KNOW what that room felt and sounded like. It was LOUD….the WHOLE TIME. That vibe was real, it was cool, it was rockin and the crowd loved it.
I pay for about 25 good looking people (read: hotties) every week so my cameras have guaranteed eye candy to shoot. I admit that. But today; the faces, the clapping, the jumping, the smiles, the applause and the cheers before, during and after the song was not Hollywood, but real.
Those of you who were there know that. You do. I heard you. I saw you.
I felt you. I usually stay in the control room to produce the show. I left to go to the theater and listen and experience that moment. I watched everything from the balcony. That performance worked.
You watch it back on TV. You saw it and you felt it again…Very little was lost. [We shot in 30p or progressive frame which is a film look and it smoked!]
The other rockers, the competition, were standing up, rocking, singing along and having a great time….wow!
SECOND point: The risk of a new song: I think we cannot forget that you just heard a brand new song, fresh out of the studio from a new group that just played their first live gig with a singer they had barely rehearsed with.
That is the point of the show. That is the real-ness we all like. That is what separates us from Idol. This is the edge of the show in its rawest form. Nothing manufactured….the real deal.
The guys took a HUGE RISK….They did not whine about their reputations on a new song debuting on international TV with a semi-professional singer. They just rocked the shit out of it. Dilana was believable. The band was tight…just one rehearsal day….imagine how good they will sound in 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years.
It WASNT perfect - thank god - it looked under rehearsed, it was sloppy and edgy at the same time.
It was, therefore, rock and roll.
THIRD POINT…and most important…the music we call rock today.
Many of you complained that the song was, “total bar band crap�…the dancers, the lyrics, the simple 3 chord progression and melody.
There were even complaints that it was too bluesy, simplistic, sexy.
Well guess what…..welcome to Rock and Roll.
I have to ask….When did rock get so serious….? For me, as much as I loved it at the time, Alternative rock did it.
I went to see every major band in the 90’s, from Nirvana to Smashing Pumpkins to Radiohead. But at the end of the day, what did Alternative give us?….maybe, almost, the end of rock….CERTAINLY the end of rock as popular music. It has yet to come back in society as pervasive….need evidence?…look at the popularity of this show vs Idol. Done.
Yes, I liked the song SN played. It reminded me of the Rock music I liked before it took itself so seriously. The Rolling Stones, the Who, Bowie, ….later the Black Crows, The Killers. Fun, escapist, catchy rock.
Today: How freakin' incredible is it that a guy like Jason Newstead, from the MOST serious metal band of all time, is up there rockin' a MAJOR KEY three chord jam – and playing with all the intensity of a teenager. Gilby's blues rock roots were in full effect and Tommy was just beating the crap of his drums, smiling the whole ride…
Forget how “big� these guys are….They were having fun with the hope that you were having fun listening.
No one was trying to understand the “human condition�…except by maybe trying to escape from it for 2 minutes and 39 seconds of sexual innuendo. .
And some of the most successful bands of all time, some of which are STILL touring, have been doing that for 40 years.
Need some proof: Listen to Good Times, Bad Times on the first Zep album - 2:25 of classic rock banality - and that song still gets played on the radio and you sing along EVERY time. Nothing wrong with that.
Rock music needs more songs about fun and less songs about woe is me. And fuck EMO!
I say that was a pretty damn intriguing start - let's see where this takes them - in a few weeks we will should have a pretty good picture of what exactly a "Supernova" sounds like.
Right now it is free…if you still don’t like it in September…don’t buy the CD or the tickets.
Thank you for reading this and allowing me to post it. I expect some anger at my points. I expect some accusations of selfishness, self-promotion, and people calling me (something more than ) a jerk.
But if this show is going to stay on broadcast TV, the only show of its kind, ever, with real rock music, with its expensive songs and production values….we should accept differences in music and what we are trying to do as a healthy experiment for rock fans or all kinds, who can come together with maybe give something for everyone, under the banner of rock and roll, which we all love.
Or we can watch the equivalent of American idol next summer…because that is apparently all the broad public can agree on….least common denominator, non-offensive stuff that works because the only complaint people have about it is….uh…I forget….it puts me to sleep.
Thank you for your time.
SOURCE: http://www.rockband.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=3731&whichpage=40
(Producer Dave posts under the name "heyheymymy")
Posted by: Wow! at August 17, 2006 08:41 PM
That is producer Dave Goffin, not me... DN
Posted by: DN6767 at August 17, 2006 08:42 PM
I was thinking GOD DAMN Dave wrote a long post...I could've even finish it! hahaha
Dave- PLEASE archive your SRL show from tonight on the rotation!! I have no broadband at home and its impossible to listen w/ dial up. It would make my whole Friday to be able to cue that shit up when I get to work tomorrow morning!! Enjoy Loveline!
Have a great night family.
Love, Amber :)
Posted by: Ambersonian at August 17, 2006 08:51 PM
Wow! Way to put things in perspective. It is on point. I think everyone has favorites and high expectations. As a musician and fan of all the band/host, (particularly Jane's and early Metallica), you really feel entitled to expect a very specific sound/product. It's ok to be an avid fan. Just enjoy the ride.
Posted by: jack at August 17, 2006 08:52 PM
Dave, Tommy, Gilby, and Jason--thank you for this year's show. Though there may be some hiccups--entertaining and engaging nonetheless. I certainly wish everyone the best! As a coach I am a huge fan of 'human dynamics'. This show is perfect for people like me. I am looking forward in the momentium picking up with the show after this last week. I may be in the majority from what I read--but, I liked the new Supernova song.
I do have to admit that I felt humbled in giving my opinions after I read your one comments about the talent of everyone and the advice you were giving was for the performer to be the best. Though, it does seem now that the comments from one performance to the next isn't so contradicting.
It has been a pleasure.
Have Fun,
Jen
P.S. All typos and errors are mine--I am spoiled with word check.
Posted by: Jen at August 17, 2006 08:52 PM
Oh, I have something new to say:
DEEEZ NUTZ!...haha
Posted by: Diane.FRI13th at August 17, 2006 08:53 PM
FINALLY!!!!!! Dude, we've been trying to get that damn Deez Nutz link to you for like 3 weeks now! Hahahaha! gotcha. Love you Dave.
-Kim
Posted by: Kim at August 17, 2006 09:01 PM
Regarding the Gilby-Jill incident, I have to admit it left a sour taste in our mouths -- simply because he was very mean. He was looking at her disgustedly and didn't mince words: "It was cheap." I couldn't even blame the other contestants about not wanting to play with Gilby after that.
I was also one of the few who was in love in Dilana at the 1st few weeks of the show. All the love flew out of the window. All I see right now is a girl who tries so hard to portray that she is "rock," & with exceedingly predictable performances to boot (I can only stand "C'mon!" quite a few times).
And yes, of course, there is talent in Dilana. But a front act needs more than that. She must be able to make the audience want to listen to a full set. With her voice, predictability, and increasingly obvious stiffness on stage, my heart now goes to Lukas, Storm & Magni.
I also didn't like your and SN's comments to Storm. I was also surprised she was actually compared to Marty and Dilana, both of whom simply based their performances from existing arrangements.
Storm gave a very energetic performance with a song she obviously hate. Give her props where it is due. It really did sound like you guys just wanted to spank her for the things she said on reality TV. Very unprofessional of SN, I'm sorry to say.
Heck, I don't even blame Storm for saying those things. Try to be lambasted by someone like Jill (gracious) ... I would personally react the same way. Probably would even say the same things, even without totally meaning it. Just to let it out of my chest.
Gracious, really felt bad with the Storm-bashing episode. I was starting to see SN as human beings, loving their boyish grins & playful attitudes. But on that episode, I saw them as people who wanted to punish someone, and had to resort to tricks in order to bring down a person's ego.
Posted by: chette at August 17, 2006 09:14 PM
Never have I posted a comment on a blog/website and today here comes a SECOND... jeeziz this is tremendous drivil, I have never read so much nonesense, people apparently like to
read themselves talk...... my heart goes out to your patience and dedication, it is after all your website and your fans so I can see the obligation but on the other hand Don't fall into the obligation, you are you and no one needs an explanation of anything. What people are not getting is that an opinion is just that- difference of opinion. No ones opinion mattters but SN. The fans will come to the shows. period. It is going to be huge. You are up there doing your job and SN is doing their thing. This is music and it is SuperNova. All of you who think you are a critic are confused.... go back to your sofa and six pack.
You rock Dave, keep up the good work XOXOCoco
Posted by: Coco at August 17, 2006 09:24 PM
I think many of the opinions here are interesting. Dilana's faults have not been spoken of (what is with Jason's obsession with Lukas' style). She obviously sings from the "throat" as well. Her performances have not been as diverse or interesting as Lukas. On top of everything, it is sooo clear that Tommy loves Lukas. He can't hide his enthusiasm. I think TL would have a hard, hard time not choosind Lukas. Lukas would really have to commit an act of treason or intentionally tank to lose. He has too much pride.
Posted by: montrell at August 17, 2006 09:24 PM
Dave and Producer Dave -
Never posted here before, but I've been a fan since the very beginning last season, so I wanted to share some thoughts and speak to the comments about the SN song.
As a fan of the show I want to say that the SN song kicked. It was awesome to watch - especially in 30p - the song, the band, Dilana, etc. were all great.
BUT, as a musician myself, the SN song did nothing for me. The riff was borrring, the chorus was weak, and there really wasn't any hook.
This is my opinion, like many of the other opinions posted here. We are all free to express them - and they are all correct.
Dave - I've been a fan of yours for years. Thanks for all the good stuff.
Hello from Canada --
Frank
Posted by: Frank at August 17, 2006 09:32 PM
DEEZ NUTZ!!!! ;) Glad you liked it!
We were originally going the "search underdrone" route, just as you did to us. We didn't hear anything, so Billy Morrison said he'd email you the youtube link to the video clue we made. That didn't work either. We were thinking you were skimming your email and missed it. If you go to youtube and search "Underdrone" you'll see the video clue that leads to the page.
This has been in the works since you were on Carson Daly.
I'm thrilled that we "gotcha" and better yet, that we heard it live.
Spreading the love as always,
Deena
Posted by: Deena at August 17, 2006 09:45 PM
Good Times Bad Times banal?? ... i am speechless...I don't see the comparison...I was perhaps too harsh in my criticism of SN last night...my perception was squewed by the fact that the song is also used as a JINGLE!
It was great to hear you and your washing machine on SRL tonight Dave...plz post pics of Raiana in MM ears and ummm well surprise us..
I was watching Spike tonight and an Ad for Madden 07 was up with Teahouse of the Spirits playing from the soundtrack...that is the shit!
peace y'all
Brian in Calgary(hangin' on 'til Friday)
Posted by: B A Hughes at August 17, 2006 09:46 PM
So Attention Everyone:
Am I the only one who thinks the fact that we are involved in a tv program so much that we go online and actually have debates over it, makes us seem like losers with no lives?
It kind of sucks when one of the few accomplishments of my day is realizing what the word (closed) means at the end of each one of these blogs..
I mean, what am I going to tell my grandchildren.. Oh, when I was your age I had some real fun.. I spent hours on my computer discussing a tv show.. God, I am a disgrace to the stereotypical teenager... Atleast when this show is over I might actually get a life... that is until I start buying rockstar:supernova dvds and picketing outside of the CBS studio to bring on Rockstar season 3.
Posted by: Marlena at August 17, 2006 09:50 PM
All this discussion - positive, negative, coherent and somewhere in between - demonstrates the popularity of the show. Congratulations to everyone involved - you're doing a great job! We can't get enough of it!!!
Cheers
Posted by: Nikki at August 17, 2006 09:50 PM
I think it's going to be Lukas. He seems like a rock star. He's unique, but at the same time, could blend in really well with SN. Lukas comes across to me as someone who "wants it" but isn't making a huge ass of himself in an effort to be selected. Also, I love Storm Large (not that I think she can or will be the one), but I like her anyway. It makes me laugh how sweet she looks, but then she'll come out with some huge inappropriate remark. I love that. Okay, she could have done better with the disco song but really, Dave, Cake's version wasn't really all that "rockin" either. Yes, it was ironic and funny, but I never thought it rocked. Delaina is awesome too - what a great voice. One last thing - I can't remember which of the SN members said something like "we think a girl can front our band..." and I am paraphrasing here, but I felt like that was said to keep "girl hope" alive. I don't think a woman can really front a successful, serious rock band. Come on - we don't need another Quarterflash, do we (I'm a gonna harden my heart...I'm gonna swallow my tears...) ick. I don't think I'm being sexist, since I am, afterall, a girl. But I also love rock and especially loved 90's rock (from about 1990 to 1997), and few, if any of the great bands from that time were fronted by a female lead singer. I just don't think it would work. Has it ever worked? Can you give some examples? And I'm not talking about "all chick groups." I mean, a group of excellent rockers with a female lead singer. Go ahead...correct me...please.
Posted by: Susan S at August 17, 2006 10:02 PM
Perhaps some guys like Dilana. I stand by my comment. Overall (according to the boards), Lukas is more popular. Nuff said..
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I just wanted to comment on the statement above. I will definately agree there are more comments about Lukas. But there are several other factors to consider about that:
1. A very large percentage of the boards are woman. I'd guess 80 to 90% easily.
2. Woman have more to talk about when their fav is a guy as opposed to a woman. We can talk ad naseum about a guys clothes, hair, every move they make, and sexual fantasies.
3. Woman do not have near as much to say when their fav is a woman. There's only so many times we can say Dilana rocks and is awesome before we start shampoo, rinse, and repeat. We just don't have as much to say about a woman....doesn't mean we don't think she's fabulous though.
For those 3 reasons, you will always find far less comments about a woman on the boards than a popular guy.
Another thing that plays into this is that us Dilana fans have been pretty complacent because so many of us are SO sure of her abilities and SN has done nothing to make us think otherwise. They love her, we love her so we have been lulled into a sense of security and many of us have been pretty lazy about supporting her on the boards and voting. We just sit back and wait for the inevitable.
I only hope those things are taken into consideration because at least for me, it doesn't mean I won't be attending a concert or two or 3 or buying the CD featuring Dilana. She flat out kicks ass and I can hardly wait.
P.S. I like SCARY Dilana. Can the show PLEASE provide her some more of the Lithium or Zombie type songs so she can do what she is born to do!!! Quit hog-tying Dilana. For that matter, quit hog-tying all of them. Let the Rockers die by their own sword...not because they lost the battle for the few decent songs available to the Rockers. MB may be doing that with the hopes it causes "drama" for the reality portion of the show but it's just not working. The end result is that the Rockers and the viewers have to suffer through crap songs during the performance show. Just give them plenty of great stuff to choose from...and I mean like 30 songs a week so each Rocker has an opprotunity to pick one they are happy with. At least then they can die by their own sword, not because they get the short end of the Mark Burnett stick too many times. It's just damn frustrating the viewers.
Surely the show can find another way to manufacter drama without sacrificing the performance show itself. Come to think of it...the jig is up for those of us with an IQ above 90. It might go a long way in helping the show with it's credibility issues if the show wasn't so highly edited for the sake of drama.
If your target audience is the morons who have not figured it out yet...well, carry on. I'll just continue to ignore the edited parts made solely to cause "drama". But I will continue to think less of the show and feel bad for the Rockers who have to endure their reputations being sullied in front of millions of people every week for no other reason than the show needed **drama**. I don't mind if REAL stuff is aired in context. I just would like the Rockers to die by their own swords...not the bad Mark Burnett edit.
Oh God...and another thing...oh never mind. I'll save it for another day. With just a few changes, that show could REALLY be stellar and so much more credible and meaningful and respected and..............
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 10:03 PM
I have to agree with the majority. The SN single the performed isn't at all good. Teenie Boppers will prolly by the copies that will be sold and it's a shame cause i like those guys they have contributed to some of the best rock music tracks of all time of the past 25 years hate to watch all that go down the toilet now. I have to feel bad for these singers those i don't like them but i do feel sorry for them cause they are performing the most well known songs of all time and the problem is no matter how you want to listen EVERYONE is going to consistently think of the original performers of those songs and be unable to truly identify songs like cats in the cradle with anyone other than cat stevens. To me RSSN is a good show to see dave and SN critique these guys thats all thats worthwhile about it cause really it's like being in a karaoke bar for 25 hours straight hearing the same 12 people jump up and sing.
Anyway Congrats Dave on the TPC release we've finally started seeing the video for "why cry" over here (new zealand) on the music channels. Good song and video.
Posted by: jc1982 at August 17, 2006 10:12 PM
I agree with Jack earlier. Regardless of the theory that girls post more about guys than girls, numbers are numbers. People who post will buy albums and spread the word. Let's just wait and see when the original material is incorporated into the show. Several will, for sure, die by the sword.
Posted by: montrell at August 17, 2006 10:12 PM
DAVE! You had a SRL and I MISSED IT?
And yet people are still coming here to debate SN like this is a message board and not blog comments? You people should have listened to quality internet radio instead!
I am soooooooooooo glad we got you with the Deeez Nuts!!! Deena is the goddess who put it all together! I'm just one of the people Brett Scallions now thinks is an escaped mental patient! I also tried to get Matt Sorum to take one in Vegas before the VR show at The Hard Rock. But he was kind of in a hurry, YES I carried a "Deeez nuts" sign from NY to Las Vegas.
Later!
Posted by: Robin (Peebs) at August 17, 2006 10:27 PM
Dave (you Sexy MoFo!), I stopped by Tower Records in San Diego tonight to pick up the new Panic Channel cd and they don't have it in stock. WTF? They're not getting it until next week. Can you complain for us old fashioned, Tower shoppers?
Posted by: Travelingchiquita at August 17, 2006 10:27 PM
If numbers are just numbers Montrells, that would mean that Zayra should have been chosen to be the new lead singer for Supernova for the past 3 or more weeks. She had way more posts than Lukas or Dilana. Albeit, they were negative, but using the simplistic approach of numbers being just numbers is a very quick way to fail in any business.
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 10:31 PM
Sometimes it feels good to touch myself while listening to track 9 off TPC album ONe. Dave, you are sooo dreamy............
Posted by: Deuce at August 17, 2006 10:31 PM
Oh...my...God..did someone else just coin my phrase...Dave, you're so DREAMY...haha
I just wanted to say thank you for SRL...
love,
jezzi(I can see clearly now)
Posted by: jezebel at August 17, 2006 10:34 PM
Tracy,
Numbers are just the one part of it. There are so many other factors too. It's not simplistic, it's realistic.
Posted by: montrell at August 17, 2006 10:35 PM
Hi Dave~
So when do we get to see you rock'n with the house band like you did last year? That was the highlight of the season. I gotta say this season pales in comparison- talent wise. Not a Marty or JD in the bunch. But if I had to pick who I thought was the best fit (look) for SN it would be Magni. SN may say they are going a more modern route....(whatever) but Lucas is old school punk. He's interesting for a bit- but for a whole concert? Mmm- no.
Same with Dilana. She was really interesting for a bit but I think she's a one trick pony and it's time to make glue. And was it just me.... but when she was done with her completely cheesy SN performance and was so happy with herself and all beaming all I could think was KELLY CLARKSON!!!!
I will miss that freaky crazy Z
Posted by: Lalalalalalala at August 17, 2006 10:36 PM
TPC should have "actual strippers" on the upcoming fall tour!
Posted by: Spencer at August 17, 2006 10:55 PM
McGyno....OMG!!! LMFAO :D...um just heard that on Loveline....
Posted by: B A Hughes at August 17, 2006 10:58 PM
Numbers are just the one part of it. There are so many other factors too. It's not simplistic, it's realistic.
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Montrell
I fully agree with your statement above. I got enough "factors" swimming around in my head these days, I may have an aneurism before the finale of the show.
I'd like to hear some of those "realistic" factors to back up your position though. I'm pretty sure I could pull a Dilana factor out of my ass to counter it :-)
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 10:59 PM
Sorry Dave, I just realized my conversation with Montrell was turning into something more appropriate for a forum as opposed to your blog.
Montrell...as much as I would have liked to discuss with you, I think I'll pass so Dave doesn't have to wade through something that isn't appropriate for his blog.
Posted by: Tracy at August 17, 2006 11:04 PM
Dave.
One thing that is difficult about the produced format of supernova is the ability for the band to naturally form and evolve in a way that makes the bandmembers want to commit to each other artistically. I think they need to do some major format shift to truly find their lead from this group, not that the lead isn't there, just that they may pick the wrong one in the manufactured space of reality tv. At least several days with the individual rocker for hanging out, writing, playing, arguing, and practicing. The lead singers need to be able to feel the band in that depth too.
PS - The way they are treating these rockers is like understudys. Think about velvet revolver. The only way it started to work for them was when someone in the industry at the same "level" as them came in and made it rock. I hope the band can be humble enough when one of these folks tries to actually lead.
Posted by: anne adams at August 17, 2006 11:13 PM
PPS. ON SN I forgot,there are these over-the-top camera cuts to people in the crowd doing pretty fake looking reactions to show they are excited or surprised by something brooke or one of you guys say. It happened at least twice obviously last night and it is going to get worse if you don't snag a handle on it.
Love ya, mean it.
Posted by: anne adams at August 17, 2006 11:20 PM
Hey Dave,
Thanks for your post. I got home late tonight and noticed that there were over 300 comments. Wow, it must have been quite a read, especially with some of the things being said.
I think you're doing a great job on the show, I look forward to seeing you every week, as well as Jason, TLee, and Gilby. I know discussions have been getting pretty heated, so I just wanted to throw some good vibes into the mix and say what a blast I've been having watching you. The performance and elimination shows take up a fair amount of weekly conversation with my friend, who's also hooked - you guys provide some of the most memorable tv. (The most enjoyable too; it's just too bad the censors got to you and TLee. ;)
Thanks for the honest and down-to-earth input. Best of luck to Supernova. And congratulations to you and the rest of TPC for (ONe)'s debut. :)
Much Love,
~Ali
Posted by: Ali at August 17, 2006 11:27 PM
everytime theres a supernove post i dont know what to say since i havent watched it since we dont get it here. pity, i feel so out the loop
lol
kyle
Posted by: Kyle at August 17, 2006 11:30 PM
You know...I was just watching the videos again--I wonder has it been considered in having Dilana and Lukas as the front singers for Supernova?
Have Fun,
Jen
Posted by: Jen at August 17, 2006 11:31 PM
this isn't even about who was singing..that was a brutal first performance by sn and one can only pray that it gets better because man that was cheesie...bring the rock..we're a serious band....new inovative music....give me a break, i realize that you are employed by the show and as such have to be carefull of what you say but i hope that at some point we will get your true reaction to some of this because i really hope that it differs from some of your reaction on the show
Posted by: chris at August 17, 2006 11:40 PM
To Dave (producerboy, not navarro)
Allow me to retort.
You know what? Dave can suck it. I have ears. I know what I like, and I also know when something sucks donkey ass.
From the complete ripoff of The Georgia Satellites opening riff to the pathetically trite lyrics, that song sucked. IT SUCKED. It wasn't rock, it wasn't cool, it didn't plant it's feet and crush it.
IT SIMPLY SUCKED, and no amount of whining from the producer is going to change that. It was cooked in wrongsauce. In fact, it was cooked in ass-sauce.
There's nothing I hate more than some smarmy, self-righteous ass who is going to tell me if I did or didn;t like something. Guess what, Dave? *I* am the goddamned customer here. I'm the fan, I'm the consumer, and I'm telling you I thought it was frigging lame. I'd stand up and tell you, the band and anyone else that to their face: That song sucked out loud. Deal with it.
Posted by: JimK at August 17, 2006 11:43 PM
Dave - Best of everything, man. Breaking up is hard to do. Try to remember the love and you and Carmen will be all right.
I've always been a big fan and have heard some tracks from the TPC release, looking forward to picking it up this weekend.
Loved Rockstar:INXS, but I'm not buying the second season. The talent pool is less enticing, Supernova doesn't sell to me as a cohesive group and I HATED their tune from the other evening. Sounded like 80's hair metal(ie. Poison, Warrant). I expect better from those 3 guys with their combined talent and experience than crap like that. I grew up in the 80's and loved a lot of the harder music(Judas Priest, Accept, good ol' AC/DC) but it's all in the writing, baby. The Supernova tune was bubblegum. Dancers were fine, don't care if pissed off Jill supporters, she was poser, but were they necessary to promote the song or just used to disguise the poor writing and campy track? I fully expected at least one of the dancers to writhe on the floor as in so many 80's videos. My husband was really disappointed as well as he holds the Supernova boys in fairly high esteem. We, as their fans, deserve better than this from them.
Keep up the good work, and tell Brooke that she looks great pregnant, I wish I looked the same. Our second is due in a few weeks, but don't chalk this up to pregnancy hormones, I want to see better from Supernova.
Keep speaking the truth.
Posted by: Lisa Steven at August 17, 2006 11:46 PM
Wow! I still can't believe ZAYRA was kicked off during the last elimination. I certainly thought it was her BEST performance yet. I thought Patrice should've gone. She's a bit too stiff of a performer for me. She doesn't move and go totally crazy. Although, when she did go "totaly crazy", (Higher Ground performance) it came across as being awkward for me. *Cringe*
Oh well. I hope Zayra will get a record deal or something out of this. =) It'd be interesting to watch her perform...on stage, that is. =P
As the weeks pass, and Rockstar:Supernova is getting closer and closer to its finally episode, I really feel that it would all come down to: Storm, Lukas, Dilana, and Magni. For me, although Dilana has delivered some of the best performances in the show, I don't think she is what the band needs to be BIG. Magni...well, I don't know. I guess we'll see. But, I am certainly all for STORM LARGE. She kicks major ass. Although, her last performances have been to mellow for me. "Anything, anything" was the best performance of the show, in my opinion. Lukas...well...he's just dirty sexy. =P
Posted by: Tina Hamdorf at August 18, 2006 12:06 AM
i think the song selection is totally killing the show .. i know its not in your hands but im sure you can put in a word .. we all love the show ... buts its a rock show ... how can the contestants bring in the rock when you guys are putting in the orchestra or whatever ... it kinda ruins the audition because the bands gets to see variety but are they ever gonna get them to sing like that .. NO! so why not get them to perform stuff / songs that would be similar to what they want so they can idea if the persons got what it takes ...
as for the dancers everyones going off about ... oh my god theres a big difference with the dancers rubbing there ass with each other or the lead singer rubbing ass with a band member .. the band should be rocking it while the dancers stand there & do the grinding stuff .. as for dilana standing & dancing with them .. it was hardly provocative .. i think thats the differnce ...there was no ass rubbing .. just dancing ... i dont think dave or SN is being unfair & making dilana there favourite ... its just shes not fu*king up every week ... its not about there voices so much .. i think they already audiotioned for that before the show started . its about the stage precense & dilanas got that ... lukas rocks but dude its been 7 weeks .. open up ur throat! ... as for the rest of the contestants ... well a few i like the fact they take the critisicm so well & use it to there advantage .. as for the others ... it just shows they dont have the tough skin the leader of a rock band shud have .. like patrices reaction to whatever dave says is always classic ... it makes my fu*king day .. it looks like shes gonna go up there & bunch him .. that girl needs to get laidor something man! ...
Posted by: bafodelic at August 18, 2006 12:31 AM
i think the song selection is totally killing the show .. i know its not in your hands but im sure you can put in a word .. we all love the show ... buts its a rock show ... how can the contestants bring in the rock when you guys are putting in the orchestra or whatever ... it kinda ruins the audition because the bands gets to see variety but are they ever gonna get them to sing like that .. NO! so why not get them to perform stuff / songs that would be similar to what they want so they can idea if the persons got what it takes ...
as for the dancers everyones going off about ... oh my god theres a big difference with the dancers rubbing there ass with each other or the lead singer rubbing ass with a band member .. the band should be rocking it while the dancers stand there & do the grinding stuff .. as for dilana standing & dancing with them .. it was hardly provocative .. i think thats the differnce ...there was no ass rubbing .. just dancing ... i dont think dave or SN is being unfair & making dilana there favourite ... its just shes not fcuking up every week ... its not about there voices so much .. i think they already audiotioned for that before the show started . its about the stage precense & dilanas got that ... lukas rocks but dude its been 7 weeks .. open up ur throat! ... as for the rest of the contestants ... well a few i like the fact they take the critisicm so well & use it to there advantage .. as for the others ... it just shows they dont have the tough skin the leader of a rock band shud have .. like patrices reaction to whatever dave says is always classic ... it makes my fcuking day .. it looks like shes gonna go up there & punch him
Posted by: bafodelic at August 18, 2006 12:33 AM
First of all YOU ROCK!!!!
second i think the SN song has potential just need some more garnishing.
I used to think dilana would be perfect for SN but not any more... lucas naaahhh he good but in a grungy sort of way (if that makes sense), ryan could do it though
and please someone tell me what up with patrice and why i like her so much, she can sing no doubt but something is always lacking in her performance i loved it when she did Iron Lung but after that nothing new.
Posted by: Monty at August 18, 2006 12:38 AM
Y'know what I love?
That Dave actually took the time to read all of the posts. I can't think many people would, to be honest.
I'm still digging Lukas and Dilana - it would rawk if they could pick them both - I loved the way their voices constrasted yet still complemented each other in the songwriting clinic.
I wonder if this blog entry will attract as many comments - it looks like it might!
Shadow Out
Posted by: Shadow at August 18, 2006 01:02 AM
I AIN'T PAYIN' NO FIFTY CENTS FOR NO COKE!
Posted by: chris at August 18, 2006 01:19 AM
Hey Dave! Looking forward to seeing Rob Zombie as a guest judge (if that's still going ahead). Any chance you could rock your RZ impression again? That cracks me up!
Love the new album btw, I think Steve's voice is brilliant!
"dun-dun-dun--der-dun-der-dun-YEAHH!"
Posted by: Ruiner at August 18, 2006 01:20 AM
dave is on casron daily right now 130am late thursday
Posted by: concertdude at August 18, 2006 01:41 AM
Hi Dave!
You are absolutely the reason I am watching RS:SN. You were awsome last year (and this) with your critiques. Gotta admit I've been guilty of thinking that too many successful acts are just lucky garage monkeys who picked up a guitar/drumstick as a teen. But listening to you, INXS and even the SN guys has shown me that rock has equally learned artists as I'd expect to find in an orchestra.
My main comment though is this... I absolutely got what Gilby was saying to Jill about the grinding. I personally think Sweet Suzie MacNeil lost last year because of a few things we saw: sucking on JD's toes, eating cake off his ass, and the drinking. As a woman it put her in a light that seemed weaker than the men around her... I suspected that was very off putting to an all male band. A woman being sexy is great but guys are looking for strength, and when a woman fumbles and puts herself in this light it is really hard for guys who want to rock to say, "Yeah front our band!"
The SN guys are very manly men and if they pick a woman to front, she's gotta be able to maintain their respect. I love Dilana's creativity and ability to captivate her audience, and Storm is gorgeous, talented and has a terrific attitude. But I see Lukas as the safe bet: charismatic, talented and being a guy doesn't hurt.
Anyhow, I'd love to see a woman fronting SN and hope the guys are humble enough to really let their choice (whomever it may be) have a sizable impact on the final product. I believe that by the time the album is done it will be far superior to the preview we had the other night. It was still fun though to see the guys rockin' together.
Dave you're the Man!!
Posted by: Arteluna at August 18, 2006 01:50 AM
Dave, I think the rumours only persist because it is difficult to believe that someone soooo hot isn't getting any action at the moment ;)
tc x
Posted by: tracey aka nb at August 18, 2006 02:07 AM
HEY GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD...NOT ONLY HOW YOU TALK YOU TYPE LIKE ME , I WRITE. I FEEL DILANA ALL THE WAY. I FEEL SHE IS GREAT WITH THE GUYS, SHE LEADS THE STAGE, AND THE CROWD, SHE'S DIF, CRAZY HAIR, FAB. CLOTHES,AND TALENTED WOOHOO. BEAUTIFUL WHEN SHE WENTOVER TO THE ORCHESTRA ARCHED HER BACK PUT OUT HER MUSIC HANDS UP IN THE AIR AND I FELT THE CHILLS WHEN SHE GAVE THEM NOTICE AND THANKS....TRES JOLIE... MUAWWWW
SHE IS SOMEONE I AM ALWAYS CURIOUS TO SEE. NOT ONLY WHAT IS SHE GOING TO SING,TAKE A CHANCE, BUT AS WELL,HOW IS HER LOOK, AND LOOKS IN THE CAMERAS EYE ARE AS APPEALING AS STIMULATING(SHE HAS MORE THAN SHE IS SHOWING) TEQUILA? LOL MAYBE WOULD WORK TO GET HER WAY NUTS....HER PURE VOICE TALENT...NO ONE, SOMETIME I THINK MAGNI BUT...HANDS DOWN DAVE N. DILANA ;)
COME BY MYSPACE/VIANEWYORK YOU ARE A FRIEND ON MYPAGE...
I AM NOT TRYING TO FLIRT, ALTHOUGH WOULDNT KIK' YOU OUT OF BED CRAZAY... COOL...INTERESTINGLY VERSED TALKER AND SONGWRITER, THAT'S COOL.... I AM AFFILIATED IN THE BIZ* AND AN AUTHOR...LOOK ME UP AS JOAN RIVERS WOULD SAY "LET'S TALK" I'M A NEWYORKER AND IN VEGAS WHERE I LIVE AND IT IS MY 49TH...
SHHHH UUUUUUUTUPPPPPPP B*DAY W*KND...WOOHOO ;)
JO NESS
LV NV USA
Posted by: JOANN NESS at August 18, 2006 02:07 AM
I started my Friday morning giggling my head off - so you FINALLY got the Deez Nutz!
Respect to Deena - she put some major work into that. And after setting up the youtube video clue and all the work that went into getting your attention what finally does it? The promise of naked pictures! Classic! Lol
(seriously - if you get time you should do the search Underdrone thing - after all that planning it would be a shame if you didn't see the whole thing)
Posted by: Miffy at August 18, 2006 02:26 AM
Hi Dave
Perhaps Dilana comes across better in the same room, but I don't think I could stand an entire show or album of her husky old smoker's hack voice. It is shocking and only like that from years of smoking. Plus the edit of everyone in Vegas showed her getting in with Tommy and trying to manipulate him -- that just looked b-a-a-a-a-d. I thought she was interesting now I think she is ... well... not!
Posted by: zuzu_jane at August 18, 2006 02:27 AM
okay i figured out who the above really is...
It's not actually Producer Dave...
It's Helen Keller, she's alive...
lol...
Posted by: Savvy at August 18, 2006 02:37 AM
Ok...I usually keep my comments here focused on Dave or TPC.
However, reading someone's post up thread (re: the demographics of RS: Supernova forum posters as possible indicators of each contestants' fan-base) ... I have the following to say:
I am a woman & I f*ing LOVE Dilana.
Having attended many of the Rock Star tapings, she is the only one who consistently makes me feel something. I kinda tingle when she performs. I may have a girl-crush. My very FIRST girl-crush. hehehehe.
But seriously, I'd pay to see Supernova play an arena show if Dilana were the singer. Hell, I'd buy the T-shirt and throw a Supernova sticker on my ass too.
I like Storm too, just think she should stick with "Storm and the Balls" and make it big that way.
A Storm and the Balls/Supernova show would ROCK!
Anyway...that's my 2.5 cents at 2am as I wait for the rebroadcast of TPC on Leno.
Oh...another half a cent...it sounds COMPLETELY different in person than it does on TV.
Shutting up now.
Posted by: MsX at August 18, 2006 02:39 AM
I think it's great that your interest in what random people have to comment on your posts is genuine. You're awesome.
Posted by: Noelle at August 18, 2006 03:04 AM
To JimK: just so you are aware, after dissing the SN guys for "ripping off" parts of their song, you then proceeded to plagarise TLee's "cooked in wrong sauce" quote. If you're going to diss people again, at least try to be original.
PS. Dave, sorry this post kind of sounds like it belongs in a forum, not your blog. So since this blog is about you... you're sexy. haha did I just make up for it?
Posted by: Megz at August 18, 2006 03:08 AM
To producer Dave Goffin:
1: Alternative didn't make rock "serious". What Nirvana and the rest did was "Emperor's New Clothes" stuff - it ripped away the excuses that crap rock monsters used to cover up their inadequecies - like using cheap stripper girls on stage to distract from crap music for example. After Alternative, what became important wasn't "Do I get to blow the bass player after the show?" it was "Is this song ANY FUCKING GOOD?"
2: The crowd went wild in the studio. Wow! The same crowd went wild AT AN EMPTY DRUM KIT. Don't give us that crap.
3: "Having a good time Rock and Roll". I cannot believe anyone would describe Bowie, of all people, as simplistic old rock. This more than anything makes me doubt your sanity. The Supernova track was NOT an example of good, fun, rock and roll (we consumers do know the difference). It was just not very good, that's all. It wasn't fun to listen to. It didn't make me want to get up and dance. It didn't cheer me up on a rainy day. For the record, some of my favourite rock songs are United States of Whatever, Fish Heads, and Detatchable Penis. All these are silly, fun, rock songs - but they're also GOOD songs. Lukas's version was GOOD. Supernova's version that all the singers had to do in Pulse, was CRAP.
Posted by: slutmonkey57b at August 18, 2006 03:28 AM
Hi Dave:
First of all, you are H-O-T-T, hot. Thanks for your input on Rockstar: Supernova. I wanted to share my thoughts so here goes...
When making the final decision, please take into consideration that DILANA has been consistently good and very good. From the beginning, she has set the bar high for herself with her mesmerizing performances. Every week, instead of having to compete with the other contestants, she has had to outdo (top) herself. So please factor this into your consideration because it is more difficult to maintain a high level of performance week after week regardless of song choice, than improving over a mediocre one. She has proven that no matter what song is thrown her way she will own it. Also, I believe that viewers, because of her “kick-ass� performances subconsciously have higher expectations of her.
Posted by: Lisa at August 18, 2006 03:33 AM
4: Again, Supernova keep banging on about the years they've spent in the business and the experience they can give the young whippersnappers up there on the stage. Therefore, the "First Song, First performance" bit does NOT wash. They've been in the studio since before the show was announced (so more than three months then, yes?). No excuses. Their performance was bad, and like I said, they wouldn't take an excuse from the rockers. I'm not taking excuses from 3 seasoned professionals who have played shows with some of the most "difficult" performers in history.
Posted by: slutmonkey57b at August 18, 2006 03:34 AM
***Dave***
DEEZ NUTZ! Glad you got a laugh out of if! Deena,babe you really put it together. Dave, Kristen and I also have a little video of MiG Ayesa for you, it wasn't posted with the rest but it's funny as hell, just ask for it because it's not online and should never be! From when we went to the Rockstar tour at the Bowery last month...just ask...
Love,
Sue
Posted by: Sue at August 18, 2006 04:03 AM
dave,
the SN song was "edgy"??? well, i guess if you think 30 year old T-Rex riffs are "edgy", i don't know what to tell you. that song was pure Britney Fox and you know it. remember what you were doing in 1986? i'll remind you- you were playing in one of the best and most important rock and roll bands ever, not hanging out at the Cathouse and trying out for Odin and Lizzy Borden- so cut the shit.
Posted by: pet ophilia at August 18, 2006 04:03 AM
ps: Poison called, they want their chorus from "Don't Need Nothin but a Good Time" back.
Posted by: pet ophilia at August 18, 2006 04:10 AM
Hello Dave!
I believe I am post 175. Had one question about the show - I thought there were to be guests. Are there still plans to bring on guests? And it has been asked before, but do you know if you will be sitting in, playing for the rockers?
As always,
me
Posted by: Angel at August 18, 2006 04:16 AM
I just felt like I was watching an aqequate pub-rock band fronted by a not-great Bonnie Tyler impersonator. If that was the band, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy, or even listen to the album. Not saying people shouldn't, but I just realy wouldnt. Have to say I agree that they should employ (as that is what they're doing, lest we forget) a songwriter to front the band, as they don't seem to do too well themselves. Lukas and Dilana are clearly one-shots - if all SN want to do is make one album and then disappear, then, great, choose them, as that's all they'll want as well. If they want to make an actual go of it, then Magni seems the only real way to do it. Songwriting chops, charisma, talent... Not saying he's the best fit (still, I think that sits with Lukas, if only because he and Tommy pull the same Billy Idol faces constantly, and could maybe get some kind of synchronised thing going on), but he's probably the best option to make this more than a one-shot pony. Oh, and probably to ensure the show comes back next year as well - the last thing that's needed is a flop album to give the show some bad publicity.
In keeping, by the way, with the other comments, The Panic Channel album is damn cool, some really great songwriting going on there. Haven't heard a 'classic-alternative' rock album like it in many a while. Can't wait for the Camp Freddy album, mind you - is that still going to see the light of day sometime?
Posted by: whatevermort at August 18, 2006 04:18 AM
pet ophelia
Don't go dissin on the T. Rex! They were way before their time,maybe before this current time--Marc Bolan was the shit!
Sue
Posted by: Sue at August 18, 2006 04:32 AM
Dave,
Still playing TPC CD nonstop, can't get enough! As far as the show goes, it is an obvious smash hit no matter what! Just look at the comments on this boards and others. Love it or hate it, it has the world buzzin! Just keep doing what your doing and I will be there glued to the screen each week to see what happens next! Have fun on Love Line!
Posted by: Artie at August 18, 2006 04:44 AM
"Tpc is real experimental rock at its finest"
Supernova is generic overplayed riffs that have been done before and failed. Fuck that show....its fucking stupid now....total disapointment...I would shoot myself before I would cheese out like that on national tv or even in a local club. sucky sucky
Posted by: Cody at August 18, 2006 05:17 AM
Hey Dave.
You´re doing að fantastic job on the show but there is one thing that bothers the piss out of me.
Where is the "Rock Show".
Tommy, Gilby and Jaon are heavyweights in the world of Rock´n roll but the songs on the show are not.
We need a little Iron Maiden, White Zombie, maybee a few covers from Guns´n roses, Metallica and Motley.
Coldplay, Dave? Gloria Gaynor? Fuck man, Cindy Lauper? I´m shocked.
Bring on the hard rock and metal that put theese guys on the map.
Peace out..............
Posted by: Ith at August 18, 2006 05:21 AM
DAVE, YOU ARE SO SMART. REALLY. (I AM NOT BEING IRONIC.) I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSONAL BLOG AND YOUR LOYALTY TO YOUR FANS. THINGS FOR READING US.
LUVE, ERIKA
Posted by: ERIKA at August 18, 2006 05:44 AM
Dave
Just downloaded ONe from iTunes and listening now - great album, I am very happy to hear the rock that I love is back and kicking hard.
Great job on the show, regardless of what is being said sadly the way of the world is that very little positive is shouted from the rooftops, instead a handful of people with a hair in their ass will always complain no matter what. Thanks for the entertainment and even if it is only for only 2 hours a week to let all of us escape our own lives and watch fixated on who will front this band.
thanks for the blogs, I read them every morning while I should be working.
Posted by: rockchickintheburg at August 18, 2006 05:45 AM
I actually didn't hate the SN song! I really like old school Rock n Roll (I'm only 24) and I thought Dilana totally brought it! As a fellow Canadian, I am obviously rooting for Lukas but I also like Dilana and Storm. What I don't understand is the majority's dislike for the SN song! They said way back in the beginning that they were taking a Bluesy/Rock n Roll path, and that's what they delivered!
As for the "I'm too hungover from Vegas" excuse, are the contestants really trying to make us believe that Tommy Lee never played a show hungover? :) (Or You for that matter? LOL)
Posted by: Randi at August 18, 2006 06:01 AM
Hi Dave,
I noticed on the show, after Supernova's performance with Dilana, that you didn't mention anything about the song. What did you really think of it?
Posted by: Tejus at August 18, 2006 06:14 AM
Hello to Producer Dave, and Dave N...
You know what? It is what it is. Sometimes it takes a time or two to groove with a song...sometimes it clicks right away. I can't say I LOVE every song on every Album/CD I've ever purchased. Theres usually one or two I really dig, one or two that grow on me, and the rest I can do without. This is only ONE song...(and I'm not talking ONe here) So everyone just needs to get over themselves and enjoy the ride.
DONE
PEACE!!! CE
Posted by: ChristineE at August 18, 2006 06:17 AM
It is fabulous that you took the time to read everything. I hope you got as much amusement out of some of the posts as I did. I love the passion that everyone expresses. Regardless of how everyone feels Supernova will more than likely have a great deal of success, if for no other reason, from all of this exposure. I can't wait to hear you on LoveLine. The worst thing about RS:SN is that it will end in a few weeks and I won't get my weekly fix of DAVE!
Posted by: Michelle at August 18, 2006 06:42 AM
sue-
in no way was i dissing T-Rex, i was merely pointing out that they did it first and much much better. "slider" is one of my favorite songs ever...
Posted by: pet ophilia at August 18, 2006 06:48 AM
Zayra sucked! Her ass should have been sent home day one! I just watched all the reality episodes and it appears the house band feels the same. Dave, You fucking ROCK!
Posted by: Debbie at August 18, 2006 06:50 AM
I think you are being exceptionally fair w/your comments on Supernova. What you hear/see is what I'm seeing and feel the same way. I've disagreed on a couple things but hey..to each his own.
As far as the rumors darlin'....I'm kind of cracking up. That falls under "nunya" in my book. I try not to pay attention to that stuff.
ONe - I've been listening to it every DAY! I'm thrilled now that I can do that! Is that us LOVELY peeps in Chicago doing 13!?!?!? I can't wait to see you guys again in the Fall!
Hugs & Kisses!
Posted by: Dawn at August 18, 2006 06:51 AM
Hi Dave,
Look - I LOVE Rockstar, it drives me batty that can't watch it live (here in the UK) but that doesn't change anything. Anyone watching Jill / Gilby a few wks ago could have seen at the time that Gilby ran off / moved away and therefore he wasn't happy - and that's his right whatever anyone else's views are. So why is anyone having a problem?! BLIMEY GUVNOR!
The show has got such a great mix of personality and humour - but it is your sexy smile which makes it all worth watchin! lol !
Sorry everyone won't leave your private life alone.
Lastly - WHEN is TPC coming to the UK? I keep logging into everything and waiting to spot the dates - but I guess you're a wee bit busy at the moment...
Silky. X>>X>X>X>
Posted by: silky at August 18, 2006 06:55 AM
This place is freakin nuts man!! I was glad to see a few Deez Nuts mentioned above...that made me feel at home. Props to you Dave for reading all these crazy posts cause I couldn't :-)
Posted by: blacklace at August 18, 2006 07:02 AM
OK Who wants to make a bet??????? Which one of the lame asses(Supernova) are going to speak to America or to the true musicians (the remaining vocalists). Who ever steps up first will either look at the camera or to the rockers and say "look this is what we said in the beginning we are going to waste your time because we suck and we are getting older and running out of money..just kidding... But it is going to be something along those lines but more of a corporate approach. I bet its Gilby and it should be . I want an apologie to the camera not just to the ones trying to front that obvious failure of a band. So who is it going to be Gilby , Tommy, Jason to make it look like they are still bad ass we just dont know good music. Ask any fan of Bad Company,NightRanger,April Whine,Metallica, Gnr,Motley Crue, TPC , Janes Addiction, or a fan of rock music in general we are all going to say the same thing. No matter how many songs they dish out. THe Panic Channel runs circles around those guys and I thought you guys were going to suck before I heard you because I didnt think you were going to put your heart into the writting process. But I am very impressed and blown away. Its definitly not fake unlike your buddies.
Posted by: south of disorder at August 18, 2006 07:07 AM
Where's Perry? Just wondering if you know of any artistic endeavors he may be involved with.
I am learning to enjoy the music I hear in (One). I have to say though I tend to enjoy the songs that have a little more edge to them, such as track 5. It is one that I will hit repeat on. There are others, however that one really stands out to me. There’s just something about the intro that invokes the sense of rebellion I tend to enjoy in my music. A couple of the songs are a bit whiny, but maybe I am just blocking myself from truly listening to the depths of the music. Perhaps I will plug my earphones in and give them another shot. I look forward to hearing more of TPC’s work. Thanks.
Posted by: Buenas Addiction at August 18, 2006 07:09 AM
HEY DAVE....SEEN ANY GOOD NAKED PICTURES LATELY??? THAT WAS PRICELESS!!! WE LOVE YOU! GOOD WORK LADIES! OH, AND BRETT! LOL!!! DID YOU SEE THE YOUTUBE CLUE DEENA PUT UP FOR YOU A FEW WEEKS AGO??
Posted by: MoonRider613 aka heather at August 18, 2006 07:10 AM
Is there any way we female viewers can get some beefcake to gaze lustfully at? There seem to be Cheesecake Chicks aplenty surrounding the stage, at the Vegas party and now as dancers on the stage, but Where's The Beef for us estrogen types?
And yes, I know you're there, as are Supernova and the male contestants but that still leaves the guys woefully unrepresented proportionately.
Thanks and yes, you are the one I leer at most :-)
Posted by: Fiona HV at August 18, 2006 07:13 AM
Dave, I feel slightly foolish, like I'm momentarily regressing to adolescence, (I think I'm a couple of years older than you; although frankly I'm not really sure how old you are) to even write this note...and it's too weird for me to elaborate in such a public forum (as opposed to if it was just you)...but, oddly, and out of nowhere I awakened this morning to realize that YOU were in my dream...and well, suffice it to say, you are one sexy dude!! (As if that's news!)
Hope that brightens your day, or at least brings you a smile. Mmmmmm!
Posted by: Ruby at August 18, 2006 07:13 AM
Ruby-39...6/7/67 get it? ;-)
Posted by: Robin (Peebs) at August 18, 2006 07:21 AM
For those of us that havent seen the shit hit the fan here is the link to
supernova leave the lights on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ieczy2fVrJo
Posted by: Cody at August 18, 2006 07:21 AM
Looks like we have two Debbies now, with totally different writing styles. I'll just go back to my old nickname Debbiedoo.
(Skip the jokes, I've heard 'em all!)
Posted by: Debbiedoo at August 18, 2006 07:24 AM
I think it was obvious that Dilana knew she was going to sing with SN on Wed night. Her performance looked completely reheared and staged and the way she was dressed even showed that she was prepared.
I really liked her when the show started but her arrogance towards the other singers is growing tiresome.
Posted by: kira at August 18, 2006 07:40 AM
Hey Dave, ever noticed that the amount of crazy in a post is directly proportionate to the amount of capslock contained within? Just thought I'd share.
Awesome blog, man.
Posted by: Sonia at August 18, 2006 07:42 AM
Considering all the heat RS:SN is generating, the show's obviously doing something right - we're all still watching and talking about it :)
Posted by: waler74 at August 18, 2006 07:43 AM
Heard your jams on the NFL video game commercial last night. We cranked it. Waiting on my cd to arrive so we can really jam that shit.
I agree with your comments on the whole Gilby/Jill situation. I guess the way I understood it was there are many bands out there that sell sex. That's what they sell and let's face it, it works. Jill is a beautiful women with a great voice (I'm sure she's got a great career ahead of her.) so she doesn't have to sell sex, she exudes it. No need to sell it, right? Secondly, it's very expected for sexy women to do that onstage during a performance. People come to expect it and then it gets boring. That's been done a billion times, find something original. That's just my opinion though. Good on ya Gilby. I hear ya.
Love n Rock
Jams
Posted by: Jami at August 18, 2006 08:16 AM
Damn, I wonder if any of you guys went to the rockstar site and told SN how you feel about their music? I did. I didn't talk so much about the song, but I told Jason that he is being disrespectful to Lukas.
Dave, first time I was able to listen to SRL, I'm a virgin. Anyway, I lost count of how many times you said bitch or bitches, so I was wondering why you are so obsessed with female dogs in heat? hahaha. I couldn't resist. I really did enjoy listening to the show. I appreciated your comment about Lukas. The whole DSL thing, wow I'm trying to do the same thing. I was wondering if I could come over to your pad to pick up a signal? xoxo
Posted by: Linda at August 18, 2006 08:18 AM
Hi, Dave!
Personally, I liked the Supernova song and thought Dilana did a great job! I have to say I thought, too, that the dancers were cheesy, but then I'm all woman, so maybe that's why it just didn't appeal to me. However, Gilby pointed out in his rant to Jill that women tend to use their sexuality b/c (they think) that's all they have, but that she was "better than that" and that she didn't need to use it. Well, I think Supernova is "better than that" and don't need to use stripper-like dancers crawling around on the floor. If I wanted to see that, I would go to a strip club or go see Madonna, not to a rock concert. Personally, I think Gilby just doesn't like being grinded up against by his singer...which professionally, I can understand. Well, just had to through my thoughts out there.
It's great having you in my living room every week, Dave! :-)
Best Wishes!
Posted by: SandraD at August 18, 2006 08:20 AM
In regards to Patrice. Due to all the negativity here, I feel like I need to rally to her defense. Several facts. There appears to be a general misconception that she is taking a lot of grief from the band, you guys are thinking of Jill, the other short one who was universally thrashed. Patrice only took heavy criticism, mostly from Dave in week three. All other times it has been very light criticism, support, or the old 'damning with faint praise'. Patrice wrote by far the best lyrics in the song writing competition, that would be very hard to argue. And that's a big plus. Dilana, for instance won't contribute here.
Patrice has the top performance of the show so far w/ My Iron Lung if downloads of individual performances are an indicator(16,000+ to the nearest at 10,000).
Patrice has by far the most successful career, signed by three major labels, and charting Billboard twice with Sister 7. Remember the performers visit to the Vegas Hard Rock and the comments on the memorbilia there? Well Patrice had a guitar on display at the Austin Hard Rock. As a matter of fact the entire remaining 14 contestants combined have not seen as much success as this 5'2 rocker. Having said all that, is she going to front Supernova? No. Will she likely go home next week? Yes. I really wished she had brought the same intensity of her elimination performances to her regular performances. Message in a Bottle while sung well was bland and she sounded tired and almost made me think she WANTED to go home. And I wished she had curbed a little bit of the attitude. Perhaps she may have outlasted Ryan and maybe even Toby. Oh well, at least she has an new album to promote when she gets home.
Posted by: Austin78730 at August 18, 2006 08:35 AM
Robin (Peebs)
I don't know if I can blame it on my having slept little, but no, I don't get what you mean by "39/6/7/67"...am I just missing something obvious here?
Posted by: ruby at August 18, 2006 08:44 AM
ok drink some coffee...
Now:
Dave is 39.
And his b'day is 6/7/67 6767 now do you get it? :-D
Posted by: Robin (Peebs) at August 18, 2006 08:48 AM
Hey Dave, completely off topic from this...about 10 or so years ago I was told by Blackie, Anthony Kiedis' Father, that I had your correct email address. I don't want to give it out here if you still use it...anyhow, you and I had many talks on AOL IM and you in fact let me interview you for my high school paper. You sent me photo's of you and Monet Mazur to use for the spread. I'm just wondering if it really was you...of if I was talking to a fake Dave. I'm pretty certain it was you because you spoke of a record you were working on with Chad Smith and how you wanted to call it Unicorn or something of that nature...would love to here from you either way.
Love,
Lilly
Posted by: Lilly at August 18, 2006 08:49 AM
Love Line was really good last night. Dave, I gotta tell you the Nell Carter reference killed me!
Hugz,
clk
Posted by: Carly at August 18, 2006 08:57 AM
FYI: 6/7/1967
(In numerology - DN is a "9 Life Path" )
6+7+1+9+6+7
=36
3+6
=9 Life Path
(the most spiritual/evolved life path is a 9)
http://www.ofesite.com/spirit/numerology/path9.htm
Posted by: Joanna (from Toronto) at August 18, 2006 09:03 AM
Well it seems from this site and the SN site the viewing public is getting the picture. This show is about ratings,and personal permotions. You don't think all these people involved in putting on this show are doing it for free do you? I enjoy watching the show. I have learned a few things and I am God help anxious to see what happens next. That and I am a Dave Narrvarro fan. All of the people left have talent in their own way, and from reading the bios it appears they have had successful careers before this show. By the waY; I didn't think Zayra was right for SuperNova and that her voice in some ways was weak,and some of her perfromances where very strange, but she had the courage to be true to herself. Also, I see she is the only one of the finalist that has a college degree. So she is a strong young woman who will go far. Probably just not in the rock and roll venue. I think that many of the finalist will have careers in music when the members of SuperNova are trying to reinvent themselves again,auditing for gigs themselves, and doing nostalgia bits on sitcoms. They are all young and have dreams like all of us do so whatever the outcome I wish them all well......Nana
Posted by: NANA at August 18, 2006 09:06 AM
it seems we have another heather posting...hello to my namesake!
MoonRider
Posted by: MoonRider613 aka heather at August 18, 2006 09:10 AM
By being young I meant the rockers not SN. lol I can say that because I am older than SN lol......Nana
Posted by: NANA at August 18, 2006 09:11 AM
The SN song is identical to a kiss song. Did they find it in the archives? Just wondering since it's so similiar it has kiss stamped all over it.
Posted by: Zastro at August 18, 2006 09:28 AM
Hey Dave, it's Billy, don't know if you remember me but I waxed your guitars on that '97 Janes Addiction Tour. I got canned in Philly for stealing a level II groupie from a sound engineer. Anyway I had a quick question. You walked across and whispered something in Jason's ear after Zahra's elimination performance wednesday night. Would you care to share with us what you said to him or is that a secret?
Posted by: Austin78730 at August 18, 2006 09:30 AM
I am new to this site and to this blog/forum. Perhaps this is why I am amazed at how seriously people take RSSN. When it comes down to it, the only people really affected by the ultimate decision made by the band are the three existing members and the one new member, whomever it will be. It is fun to watch and enjoy as the season progresses.
As some one says nearly every week on the show - all of the singers are very talented. If any of you watch American Idol then you know that there is an astounding gap between their contestants' talent level and the talent level of the contestants who appear on the Rock Star series.
Regarding the song selections, I don't mind that not all of the songs are pure rock songs or not even rock songs outright (i.e.: I will survive). I only mind that the song selection seems so narrow and repetitive.
Regardless, though, I love this show because of the level of talent; the fact that it is rock and roll on televison; and because of Dave Navarro.
Dave, you are beautiful inside and out; live long and prosper.
Posted by: melinda at August 18, 2006 09:42 AM
WOW - you really read ALL of the posts? Full time job.
Commenting on the whole Jill/Gilby thing...I also see the difference between a grinding dancer and a grinding lead singer. When Jill did what she did, it came across as cheap and cheesy - like she was trying too hard to be something she's not. She clearly has the pipes, but it seemed to me that she wasn't 100% sure of her own style and stage presence.
p.s. Dave? Really. Let's go on a date. long strawberry blonde hair...green eyes...dancer's body...good soul. I'll buy dinner! ha!
Posted by: kate_kate_81@hotmail.com at August 18, 2006 10:03 AM
WHUD UP YOU CRAZY FUCKS?!?!YALL BE POSTING LIKE WHOOOOA!!! BUSTA BUST!!! NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT YALL!!!! Holla, shit...
anyways, back 2 the subject yo. Cockstar SuperWhorva, is the worst band ever. Gilby needs to take a time machine back to 1987. Thats all i got to say. Tommy Lee, why does everyone think this guy is such a musical great?!?Has anyone every listend to Tommyland or Methods of Mayhem?? EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe he is a "great" Because he can play 80s songs upsidedown? Everytime ive seen him play on the show he sucks, the houseband drummer is SOOOOOO MUCH better than that big penised adhd fool.
LYLE
OUT
Stay
FUCKED UP!!!
Posted by: Lyle at August 18, 2006 10:13 AM
Fuck!!
Dave we love you!
Posted by: RoxieJean at August 18, 2006 10:29 AM
Pamela...is that you?
Posted by: Joe Rockhead at August 18, 2006 10:29 AM
