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March 16, 2005
7 Days
Day one down over at the studio yesterday. We got basics for Teahouse and Awake. Perk and Chaney just nail that shit. Today we focus on Blue Bruises, the only song we have never played live, then on to vocal and guitar overdubs for the remainder of the time. By the way, today is day 7 off the smokes. Yesterday was the first time in my life that I spent the day in the studio without smoking. It was hard, but easy if that makes any sense. Some have asked me what I have done to stop so far and here it is:
I started counting how many I had a day, then tried to decrease that number each day. For instance, I would only have one per hour. I did this for three weeks. Also, during this period, I saw Constantine, which pretty much fucked me up about it all, not to mention that Johnny Carson died of emphysema around this time. So, I had all that on my mind. Then I started to focus on the treatment for smoking related illnesses, not the death. I have done a lot of dangerous things in my life and death itself really isn't the scary part. We all die. What IS scary is the clinging to life on medication and plugged into tubes and monitors part. THAT, I could do without. I mean, it's not like you just might die one day from this, it turns into months and months of agony and hospitals and doctors and sadness. If the consequences were just a random, "lights out" one day, I might not be so concerned. That would feel more like gambling and living on the edge. But when the option is more about "clinging" to the edge, it all sounds less romantic. Anyway, after all that for about a month, I went to the patch. I dunno if it will stick or not, Lord knows I have gone back to harmful actions in the past, but I'm giving this my all for the time being. I never thought I would end up ranting about the dangers of smoking! Maybe the ranting in itself, is all part of my therapy. Anyway, enough said.
I spoke to Madchen Amick's manager yesterday. There is a chance that she might be calling in next Saturday down at CFR. Billy and the boys have a prior engagement that evening, poor guys, so Steve Isaac's will be filling in and co-hosting with me.
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March 16, 2005 10:44 AM
Comments
Cool,Dave. Thanks for the info :P
Posted by: Patricia at March 16, 2005 10:48 AM
Good for you, Dave, I hope you can stick to it. Can't wait to hear you guys on Saturday!
Elsa
Posted by: Junebug at March 16, 2005 10:49 AM
Dave,
Being that you have not had as much time working up these new tracks before entering the studio, what is the overall consensus about how they gel with your other tracks?
Mike C. (FLA)
Posted by: Mike C. at March 16, 2005 10:50 AM
Keep off the smokes!
Stay on the music!
Keep rocking my world (selfish bit ha hah!)
Posted by: Nik at March 16, 2005 10:52 AM
Good job staying away from the smokes Dave! Great times on Camp Freddy Radio last week, it was a lot of fun to listen to.
I just finished your book, which was an excellent read. I liked watching the end of 3 Days & seeing the photo booth in your house at the same time I was wrapping up the book. While that year must have been hell for you, it sure gave me something to do when I was snowed in the house the past couple of days (haha).
Looking forward to Panic music in the future,
Keep on rockin' in the free world!
Posted by: John at March 16, 2005 10:55 AM
Hey Dave,
Please allow me to make two sugestions for a Camp Freddy Show: 1. FUCKING-MUSTAINE 2. Tom Waits
EH!?
What do you think of them, anyway?
Posted by: Max at March 16, 2005 11:00 AM
Hey Dave!
Wow, I haven't been here in a month, I come back and you've quit smoking! That's really awesome man, I'm happy for ya. It's one of the hardest things to do, but it can be done! Much luck to you.
Anyways, I really miss this place. I've hardly any had any personal time lately (especially online). To sum it up quickly: a ton of work with school, work, internship. On top of that, I've been trying to prevent a really unnecessary lawsuit from happening (long story that has to do with my late father's coop apartment and management being impatient that it hasn't been sold yet).
This should ALL be over with in about 2 weeks, so I'll eventually have a life again. I miss all you people and hope to get back on the TPC board in a week or so! I'll try and stop in here a bit more often though until then. Just stopping in to say hi to everyone, Dave, Itanja, Denise, Rob, Mike, Jezzi, Brian, etc. I've missed you people!
Peace!
- Sean
Posted by: Sean at March 16, 2005 11:06 AM
Dave- I was going to say that when I saw you at the showcase, that was the first time in my life that I have ever seen you play without smoking. Right on!
Posted by: Brett at March 16, 2005 11:06 AM
By the way, congratulations on starting to quit!!!
I've had two grandfathers and two close uncles die from smoking related illnesses. and now it looks like my dad may lung cancer (he's going in for tests next week).
We're all proud of you, son!
Ya' heard?
*barks* *barks* *barks*
;)
Posted by: Max at March 16, 2005 11:08 AM
Good work Dave, keep it up!! Sometimes it just takes something clicking in your mind to be able to do these things. Sounds like you are there right now, you can succeed. I had the same kind of thing with weight loss, i couldn't really do it until my mind was absolutely ready. Then it was unstoppable!
Madchen, I will be on board for that!!
My band is playing the Continental Club in NYC this Saturday. Have you ever played there with anyone or seen a show there?
Feel free to hop on a plane, i'll put you on the guest list ;)
Posted by: drumwhore at March 16, 2005 11:17 AM
Dave, as said by Rob Schnider in the movie Little Nicky and a few other movies of his...,"YOU CAN DO IT!"
dave, how is Carmen handling your not smoking? is she ecstatic??
kyle
Posted by: Kyle at March 16, 2005 11:19 AM
Its great that you're quitting the cigs Dave! I recently quit cold-turkey about 6 months ago, so far so good! I can actually run now, not that I want to, but I'm surprised you've been a smoker and an avid worker-outer for so long. Anyways.. Keep it up! It really is worth it in the end.
Posted by: ivystar at March 16, 2005 11:20 AM
awsome ! the 1st 7 days of the rest of your life, right on !
Posted by: johnnyrev at March 16, 2005 11:26 AM
Dave, I have recently started to slow down on the smokes myself, it makes it easier to know that the guy that made me want to start playing guitar is stopping too, right on. anyway i was wondering since you have been all over the U.S., in your opinion, what is the best music city?
Posted by: Jeff at March 16, 2005 11:27 AM
Hey all, Once when I was bored I took a zip-lock bag, sealed it and stuck a straw in it. I took a huge drag of a cigarette and blew it into the bag then pulled the straw out and sealed the rest of it up. I watched the smoke sit inside the bag for a couple of minutes swirling around until the smoke disipated. What was left was a liquified brown greasy substance. When I opened the bag it reeked like hell. That did it for me. I thought about the inside of my lungs looking like the inside of that bag. I haven't smoked since.
Posted by: Jason Cook at March 16, 2005 11:46 AM
Dave, does that mean Carmen's giving up Coke cans if you're giving up cigarettes? I remember you guys discussing that briefly on that old MTV Love Story doc, cute show :)
Posted by: Soph-Deux at March 16, 2005 11:46 AM
Wow, Dave, I don't know when I've felt so proud of you. That's fucking awesome. Keep it up!
Posted by: MissMaceo at March 16, 2005 11:46 AM
What up Dave and peeps?
Hey drumwhore, good luck with your show, I can't make it (girlfriend's high school reunion), but coincidentally, my band is playing on Fri. in NYC at the Baggot Inn. I'll email you with the remaining questions/info. Maybe if we get a NYC 6767'ers show together, TPC or Camp Freddy will come out and we could open for them? How bout it, Dave? For the fans? Ha! Later - Tito
Posted by: Tito at March 16, 2005 12:00 PM
Go Dave! Awesome. Thanks for letting us know, and it's alright if you talk about the dangers of it because... it's just dangerous. My whole family on my mom's side does it, some have tried t stop but I guess it took them over. And still do it. And ever since I was little my dad did it, but I never wanted to believe it because he was never open about it and basically I found out for myself because when I was like 5 or something and my dad would be in the laundry room for like ever, and saying he was going to the bathroom... yeah right. And I also found a pack of cigarettes down there, and just all this other stuff. To him it's a secret and he wished no one knew but honestly they do, his mom, my grandmom didnt know until I told her and all this crap. Anyways sorry about that. Umm enough said. Have a great dayy!
Posted by: ..::Jess::.. at March 16, 2005 12:03 PM
Way to go Dave. im really happy that you quit and keep up the good work. good luck with the album.
Posted by: Jon at March 16, 2005 12:05 PM
We are proud of you, you can do it!
Posted by: Wendybird at March 16, 2005 12:07 PM
What an impactful post.
First, I paused on this statement, just trying to wrap my brain around it:
"Yesterday was the first time in my life that I spent the day in the studio without smoking."
But it was this one that really stopped me in my tracks:
"What IS scary is the clinging to life on medication and plugged into tubes and monitors part. THAT, I could do without. I mean, it's not like you just might die one day from this, it turns into months and months of agony and hospitals and doctors and sadness."
Not simplifying an outcome, but examining it. It's all about perspective, isn't it?
Sue
Posted by: Caffeinated Sue at March 16, 2005 12:10 PM
Good luck quitting Dave. :)
Posted by: Jeff at March 16, 2005 12:10 PM
Thanks for being so open about discussing stuff here. You really are an inspiration.
Peace-
Bonita
Posted by: Bonita at March 16, 2005 12:16 PM
Hi all,
DAVE - Thanks for the heartfelt post. We are all so proud and happy for you. You are a brave and inspiring human being.
SEAN - We missed you. It's great that you are keeping busy; life sounds very exciting! I hope all the legal stuff works out.
-Denise
Posted by: Denise at March 16, 2005 12:29 PM
Hi. I am just one of the people you don't know, but who read your blog pert near daily. I just wanted to thank you for the things you have written about smoking and why you are quitting. Having watched people I love struggle with the sort of death-life you have detailed here, I can only say that it is indeed agony - not just for the person who is slowly dieing of disease, but for those people on the periphery. A whole lot of people look up to you and to hear you talk (write…whatever) about your struggles and addictions and your triumphs is, I’m sure, a huge inspiration to many. Thank you again. Cheers.
Posted by: Karen at March 16, 2005 12:31 PM
Thanks Dave...your remarks today mean more to me than you'll ever know. I'm so happy for you...hang in there.
Posted by: Cori at March 16, 2005 12:41 PM
Dave -
I recently quit smoking, too - in October. It definitely gets easier as the days go on. I had the same point of view - the pain of what could happen later got me to quit.
I just think about how much money I'm saving (you may not have that worry though).
After a while, even if I crave one, I think - do I really want to go through quitting like this again? Quitting sucked and was even painful - but having to do it a second time for a few minutes of nicotine isn't worth it. Just remember that.
Posted by: Anonymous at March 16, 2005 12:41 PM
Hello! : )
Posted by: Adriana at March 16, 2005 12:47 PM
Best of luck quitting the sticks Dave, hope you see it thru. Maybe with such a clean home envirionment it's time to bring a Babu De Navarro/Electra into the world? If at anytime the cravings get too much, go with the old relaible form of therapy(Sabbath Vol4/Ride the lightning and a punch back in the Garage!!!!).
Anyways, I would say good luck with the rest of the recording but you Guys are TPC...who needs luck when there is talent, and an abundant fanbase already paving the way and spreadin' the word(every1 I've sat dowwn and played Bloody Mary and Outsider to have been totally blown away, a lot of which WERE Perry disciples)
Be safe, Be Happy
Posted by: ToNtO1% at March 16, 2005 01:02 PM
Good job and good luck Dave. You have made me really want to see the movie Constantine- I was going to pass on it until the DVD came out, however if it has made such an impression on you, I think a screening is warranted. I'll check it out this weekend. Have a pleasant week all.
Posted by: QQQ at March 16, 2005 01:57 PM
I was chasing this trainer at the gym and she would love to push me harder and HARDER! What a freakin' turn on! It's not like you're gonna punk out in front of a smokin hottie! Anyways, she'd make go mas minutos w/ cardio and I realized for me to acomplish my goal of banging this broad (who wants to date a wuss?) was to wean off the smokes! Two months later, Santa granted my wish I realized I could go "forever!" Wore her out and I felt 18 again! 4 years later and still going "strong"!
Just push yourself with the cardio, man. It'll keep you motivated! And those ball, hand grips, chigaledas...to keep your hands busy! Idle hands are...
Sometimes you just need a little inspiration...
Posted by: los lonely boy at March 16, 2005 02:01 PM
Lungs have the capability of regenerating even after relatively short periods of time. Good luck to you. We need and want you around for a long ass time !!!
Posted by: eveningson1225 at March 16, 2005 02:12 PM
good luck Dave! I just quit smoking and the way I did it was just go full force into cardio at the gym. Take spin classes, run on the treadmill. You'll find the last thing you want to do after intense cardio is light up. But then again you probably work out more than me. Either way I got faith in ya. Keep the good tunes rolling. Clean living brotha, clean living.
Posted by: Jeff at March 16, 2005 02:22 PM
Giving up smoking is a good idea, considering that you never now who may be harbouring a foetus inside of their womb. Not that I'm implying anything...
Posted by: filipendula at March 16, 2005 02:29 PM
Dave, congratulations! I am so glad you have made this move. :)
I have heard that eating carrots(preferably raw) helps to heal lung tissue. Hell, if it doesn't work, it sure won't hurt you.
Posted by: Jenniffer at March 16, 2005 03:41 PM
Dave, best of luck with quitting smoking. Expect to get depressed and to go through periods where it genuinely suck balls. You have to be prepared for that and determined to push your way through it. I've always caved myself, but I hope to eventually get it right. Anyway, best wishes! xo
Posted by: Dana at March 16, 2005 03:56 PM
Hey Cali people,
Here is a band that I am going to see on May 5th. The band is called SLUNT and it is fronted by MJ Abby. I saw them about 4 years ago and they rocked. They will be doing a few gigs in Cali in April. If you want to check them out here is the info.
http://www.slunt.net/
Mon, 4/4 (8PM) @ The Roxy
9009 W. Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
w/ Metal Skool
Thurs, 4/7 (9PM) @ Club Vodka
7969 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
PS- Wendybird, if you go, please take some pics for me.
Later,
Mike from NYC
Posted by: Mike from NYC at March 16, 2005 03:59 PM
Hang in there Dave, I love having you in the world.
Posted by: Tre at March 16, 2005 04:00 PM
"...fronted by MJ Abby"
I meant to write "...fronted by MTV VJ Abby."
Sorry,
Mike from NYC
Posted by: Mike from NYC at March 16, 2005 04:00 PM
Personally, I am very proud of you Dave! Keep sticking to it; we all want you and your music around for a long time. Now, if I can just get my hubby convinced that he should quit, too...
---Mandie
Posted by: Mandie at March 16, 2005 04:05 PM
Good work Dave dealing with the "Nails in the coffin"-I went to a private rehab with a smokers cessation program. There are studies which link quitting smoking with recovery. The study was done over a long period of time and is considered valid. Basically I hate recovery stats-their sad. Regardless, the results show that those who quit smoking as well as drugs/alchohol have a 60% better chance of recovery. When I was there I said "fuck them"-but then again I relapsed. Also smoking cigarretts trigger the same endorphines as dirty dopy n speedy substances. This was noted as a possible factor of this statistic. The info is from Mountainside Retreat in Canaan, CT where nicotine annonymous/hypnotherapy to quit and patches are dispensed to help with recovery! P.S-nicotine gum is addicting/try patch first.
Oh-I still smoke but really wanna quit! I let ya know if I do!
Creepy-I still havent heard "After All" and my master copy is missing. Dont wanna say "stolen" but I may need one of ya's to burn me back a copy. Excited to hear what ya did.
My tattoo I got done is missing some of the intrical parts I had drawn (some small spikes that make a difference) It will be awkward to go back and complain seeing I didnt notice when he showed me his drawing. Body arts real f'n important though.
I cant figure out how to access songs in "loop project" nor see how you guys collaborate.
Happy days!
B-tard
Posted by: boots at March 16, 2005 04:26 PM
Hey Dave,
Keep up the good work with quitting smoking. It's awesome that you're working so hard to quit something you have been doing for so long. More power to ya man!!!
Love,
Steph
Posted by: Steph at March 16, 2005 04:29 PM
Dave - sounds like a great game plan! Here is to upholding your desire to put the smokes behind you!
always,
me
Posted by: Angel at March 16, 2005 04:35 PM
The feeback section needs quote levels.
Posted by: Zimphire at March 16, 2005 05:06 PM
Dave and Family: has anyone been disguisted by Free Dazes posts at TPC?
This is a girl that wanted to be a moderator? The only vote I cast for her for her is a TPC cover band fluffer chick. Like in the movies! My ninth star will be dedicated to her when its ready.
A preview * for your gonna be like those movie stars!(The ones people dont talk bout)
-please stop the fights, i can only read so much before im compelled to type! Im gonna have to speak with my sponsor bout this ninth star n make an amend.....oh well!
Boots
Posted by: boots at March 16, 2005 05:42 PM
Dear Dave:
Is there any way to settle the bickering between FreeDaze and Creepy. (Your fans)
My opinion is Creepy adds to the forum, makes me laugh, shares music, and is a person you can go to when your in trouble. He did say he was gonna kill FreeDaze, but how much sarcasm spills out his ass by the minute. Its like dissecting a fucking standup comic! Freedaze irks me-as you can see by my post above. Anyway there is a frenzy-the moderators have there hands full. What about freedom of speech. The same shit Howard Sterns going to Serius over. In my opinion Freedaze has won the f'n battle cause the mods are on Creeps ass and not hers. This is so stupid I take the time to read this bs and type about it.
How do you feel about freedom of speech? How does it relate to TPC forum?
And again, what do you think of Howard, the show and Serius? You gonna make the switch.
(By the way there was a Joey Boots on the show today...not me!)
*Normally Id be like who cares, but are freedoms seem to be stepped on every day to say what we want to. It would be really cool to hear your thoughts. If you dont care, I can totally understand...at this point Im wondering why I do?
Mister Boots********
Posted by: boots at March 16, 2005 06:14 PM
Dave:
what equipment are you using for the recording of the panic channel(amps,effects, guitars)
Posted by: sergio at March 16, 2005 06:15 PM
Pretty damn cool that a lot of people are really getting into the health kick. Dave, you should be real proud having such a positive impact. I've noticed a lot of 6767 folks have been hitting Dave up, even more so lately, of what his secrets are for getting his trademark ripped body. I tell ya, these new pictures look like he's throwing the weights around even more so!
I know Dave has dropped some hints and suggestions over the past 9-months, but here's a recommendation. How about having a Workout (Fitness/Nutrition) Channel over at the Panic Channel Community? I hope that doesn't sound cheesy, but why not harness all this good energy into a place where we can all share and benefit from. I haven't dropped the idea over at TPC Community yet, as I wanted to first see what Dave and the 6767 health nuts thought? Let me know if you need help starting something up (forum), as I live and breath at the gym, as my daily job (military) revolves around fitness... Anyone, anyone? -Al
Posted by: Big Al at March 16, 2005 06:40 PM
Just to add an additional perspective for inspiration; the pain, the sadness, the hospitals, the doctors and all the things that make cancer / emphysema so horrible for the patient, totally and completely consumes the family members and loved ones too. Unfortunately, in the past I was never easily deterred by things simply because they were harmful to me. However, after seeing my dad and grandma both suffer from lung cancer, and out of love and necessity becoming a personal nurse both times, in every way, I was awakened with the realization that I could no longer willingly choose to do something that will more than likely put my daughter in the situation someday that I'm going through now. It's painful, terrifying and an emotional nightmare. I'm not necessarily afraid of what would happen to me, but more so of what my family would have to go through because of me.
I smoked 2 packs a day for over 20 years and even though March 20th will be 2 years for me, not a day goes by that I don't think of having one. Sometimes just a whiff is like blood to a shark. But you keep moving. And do something else. And redirect your focus. And walk away knowing that it's just not worth it.
I'm proud of you for getting through today.
Spreading the love,
Deena
Posted by: Deena13 at March 16, 2005 06:57 PM
Dave,
As a former smoker I can tell you that the first 2 weeks are the hardest..gets much easier from that point on.
The worst is watching a movie where someone is really inhaling a good smoke...hard to watch.
It's easy to go back to smoking..hard to stick to it and actually quit. Be strong and do the hard thing.
Good luck brother,
Rich
Posted by: Rich at March 16, 2005 07:29 PM
Hey Dave, when you're purchasing your vintage rock band Tshirts, do you rummage through thrift stores, or do you drop 1000 dollars at some boutique in LA?
Posted by: Six7Six7 at March 16, 2005 07:50 PM
Very Good Mr.Navarro! I applaud you. I'm actually quitting something myself, however mine isn't nearly as deadly or, really, deadly at all. I was addicted to pop (or Soda). I was having like 3 cans of pop a day, then it got up to about 5. It was costly, and I needed to get off of it...Not good for the teeth or bones, apparently...especially dark pop. Needless to say, this is my Tenth day off of it.
But Enough about me. :P
I do Have a question for you, However. :P
When you see the Anti-smoking adds on TV for Stupid.ca or other ones, does it inspire you even more to quit or does it make you feel guilty?
Posted by: Shannon at March 16, 2005 08:07 PM
Cheers, DN. Nice job staying off the smokes.
Posted by: Tommy Himself at March 16, 2005 08:42 PM
Deena- I'm sorry to hear about your dad and grandmother.
Awesome choice you made to quit!
Rock on D-dogg, rock on...
Hospitals are for sure not a fun place to be for a long time. I've never had a smoking related illness, but I did have a major surgery when I was 5 where I had to stay in the hospital for a month. It taught me a lot about self discipline, patience, and the importance of taking care of myself.
Posted by: mortisha8 at March 16, 2005 11:21 PM
Anyone see that movie "Anger Management"? (Jack Nicholson, Adam Sandler) Boots, you may get a kick out of it! I did.
Here's a tip~sing "I'm so pretty" when you feel compelled to post! :D
I'd love to see a health thread going on over on the tpc community. I could use some help with that! I lack discipline when it comes to getting into shape. Especially now I don't play team sports like soccer any longer.
Fortunately, I never smoked cigarettes at least!
My grandparents smoking so much put me off. I used to hide their cigarettes, I was so scared they'd die from smoking. :S
Love and hugs everyone, Lisa xxxx
Posted by: ylais at March 17, 2005 12:34 AM
thankx for the support bootsy...........i know i went off ......workin on the temper...........but i guarantee im not the only person here who's joking threatened to kill someone out of anger...........fuck it.....its over........i dont care anymore.........on a positive note.......your media player settings sound like they're fucked up.......u should be able to go to the loop.......click a song....and listen to it........i sent u a winzip proggy.........cant believe u still cant play it.........at any rate theres a rough mix of after all on the loop site.......im gonna clean it up and resubmit tomorrow when i get up.......i still have the copy u sent me.........i'll send it back if that helps......oh and nik wants to add his musical genius to the song as well........i have to say its coming together fantabulously........ur gonna get a musical hard on over this shite........peesssshhhh bootsy dood'r
Posted by: UncleCreepy at March 17, 2005 01:59 AM
It's not hard to Madchen *you* conquering this...
Posted by: Jenn at March 17, 2005 02:08 AM
Emphysema. I have a sad and weird story about that. When I lived in San Fran, I used to go to a lot of small clubs, saw some great music legends play live. Lots of times I saw the guys from Jefferson Airplane and Country Joe and the Fish play. They used to play together, just get togethers. I saw the guitarist from Quicksilver Messenger Service play in a tiny wall in the hole blues club. One of the most memorable amazing nights of my life. Here's a link to his website, I just found. http://www.johncipollina.com/
He played slide guitar that night amazingly, like the devil. The weird thing is, I got a feeling he was "dead". When he sat near me in the break, I had a sickly feeling come over me, like he was going to die.
Two weeks later he died of emphysema. I didn't know he had that. It wasn't publicised. I saw the notice in the local paper about his death, and how the guys from Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe and the Fish, and some others, were all doing a memoral show in a club on Haight Ashbury, so I went. And hardly anyone was there. It was so sad. The man was a great guitarist. One of the best I've ever heard, seen.
Lisa
xxxx
Posted by: ylais at March 17, 2005 04:04 AM
Hey Ylais, its been a while since we last spoke, how are things down on the coast.....Merthyr still raining, still the blackhill capital of WALES!!
Posted by: ToNtO1% at March 17, 2005 05:12 AM
Hey Dave - Great to hear you are still on the road to quitting the cigarrettes but this disconcerted me a little "...I would only have one per hour." Jeez!! I hate to think how many you used to smoke in an hour before you started cutting down then!!!
Keep fighting!
tracey x
Posted by: tracey aka Latex Queen at March 17, 2005 05:24 AM
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ONE MORE BAND TBA(BEST IT IS THE PANIC CHANNEL... COME ON GUYS, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!!)
Posted by: ToNtO1% at March 17, 2005 05:57 AM
Good luck quitting Dave; very smart move. I work as a Paramedic, and I see the end results of smoking everyday. It is not months of suffering either, it is years (not to mention what the loved ones of the patient go through); truthfully, it is one of the most miserable ways to go. Again, best of luck to you.
Posted by: JT at March 17, 2005 07:12 AM
Hey Dave, there are a lot of factors in your life that are different than they ever have been. Quitting smoking can fit perfectly in with all of these. I would say stay strong and you will surprise yourself. Plus, there are people that need you around for as long as possible, in real life and in fantasy...no explaination needed.
Posted by: Leah at March 17, 2005 08:45 AM
I am working on quitting smoking also. Funny thing, I just found this site, but I read your book about a month ago and its changed my thinking about a lot of things. One thing you wrote definitly rings true in this situation: when you quit drugs and said you had to 'detach yourself from everything you thought defines you.' Well that is the same with smoking--its such a struggle because quitting sort of clashes against my 'self image.' I have had to take myself out of everything I know and say 'am i really that person'??
Mad props to you for writing & publishing "Dont try this at home." It was difficult to read at times but at the end it was the most beautiful thing. Its the most powerful unintentional anti-drug message that i've ever read. And your thoughts about life and love have helped me breathe like a new person. Thank you Dave Navarro.
Posted by: Mary Beth LeGrand at March 17, 2005 09:00 AM
HAPPY BIRFDAY BILLY CORGAN!!!
Posted by: Lyn at March 17, 2005 10:40 AM
67th post!!! Wooot....
Hi Dave, nothing much to report. Looking forward to Saturday's show with Steve....Madchen if Madchen was to call..awesome...
Looking forward to being there the first time you guys play Blue Bruises live..hey, I have an idea...can you play it this Saturday?
love to you and yours
jez
Posted by: jezebel at March 17, 2005 11:15 AM
hey family, hey Dave
just wanted to tell you all that my girlfriend and i broke up today. it would have been our 2 year anniversary in 2 weeks, so rather bummed and rather down!
kyle
Posted by: Kyle at March 17, 2005 11:47 AM
Jeez Kyle, I'm sorry. Things sounded so rosy, I'm kinda surprised. Hope you're okay. You are a sweetheart. Don't worry, someone will realize what a gem you are.
Posted by: Dana at March 17, 2005 12:00 PM
Happy St. Patricks dayy! (( and that also goes to Carmen because shes German, Cherokee, and IRISH. I'm not Irish but I'm into it anyway. Have a nice dayy!
Posted by: ..::Jess::.. at March 17, 2005 12:15 PM
Kyle...I'm really surprised to hear that! I'm so sorry...any chance it will work out???
Posted by: Cori at March 17, 2005 12:21 PM
Hi everyone,
I hope you're having a lovely day. If you celebrate St. Patrick's Day, have a great one. Be careful and don't drink and drive.
Kyle - Sorry to hear about your breakup. Maybe things will work out after all... and if not, I hope you find happiness soon, either by yourself or with someone else.
Much love,
-Denise
Posted by: Denise at March 17, 2005 12:26 PM
Hey Kyle,
Don't get too down, maybe absence will make the heart grow fonder, and your woman will realize what she's giving up....if not chin up and soldier on...hapiness is like an old record, you'll find it sooner or later....
Posted by: ToNtO1% at March 17, 2005 12:34 PM
HAPPY ST.PATTY'S DAY EVERYONE!!!
Hope everyone has a great time, I know I will but every day is St.Patty's day for me.
Did anyone see Messt Stenchs Patty's day card on Panic channel? She is so HOT! Dave, when will Messy's fabul-ass be on Camp Freddy Radio next?
Have a good one, party till you puke!!
cheers,
Re
Posted by: Pinhead at March 17, 2005 01:11 PM
Have a rockin St. Patricks Day everybody!
Love,
A.E.R
Posted by: Adriana at March 17, 2005 01:49 PM
Wow Dave,
well said. really.
let's not forget too folks,
nicotine is just as addictive a substance as heroin, only it's 'legal' and they sell it in small doses so Phillip/Morris can keep their clientele ($) for a longer period of time.
pretty fuckin gross.
"all that first class drug shit brings me down down down..." -scott w.
Posted by: joel at March 17, 2005 01:49 PM
Hey Dave, congratulations on stopping your smoking. I know how difficult it can be to quit something especially when your mind and body won't agree with one another. The first week or two are usually the most difficult, stay strong brother. I hate to hound dog you, but I have a quick question, have you ever tried surfing?
-Enzo
Posted by: Enzo at March 17, 2005 02:19 PM
keep off the smokes dave! well done mate!
j x
Posted by: Judah at March 17, 2005 03:55 PM
Ladies and gentleman I am pleased to announce that...
I got a quarter scholarship to the Musician's Institute!!!!!
whew, that takes a load off the financial worries..
Happy Saint Patty's day all :)
Posted by: mortisha8 at March 17, 2005 03:56 PM
Keep it up......My mom quite about a month and a half ago. Remember some days are easier than others just keep the bigger picture in mind.
Posted by: Lisa at March 17, 2005 04:15 PM
Hello Dave!
Hope all is well. i just had a question... who is the best female ax player you think? i think nancy willison rocks!
which woman would you want to play on a song with?
thanks genie
Posted by: Genie at March 17, 2005 04:25 PM
Hey everyone,
I am new to this place (what a fortunate accident!) and have been trying to catch up with all the TPC stuff.... Dave, it sounds fucking awesome! Are you guys gonna come over to the UK with your new stuff and give us British fans a treat? Bring Carmen and her dance troupe as well... that'd be amazing!
I bought your book on a recent visit to the states and have just finished reading it. It was a really amazing insight and I kinda want to show it to an ex of mine who has a slight problem with substnces as a lot of it rang very true. It's really amazing to see how you have come through it all, very inspiring!
Posted by: Sarah at March 17, 2005 04:32 PM
Congrats on laying down the smokes Dave. You've been through so many things in your life, this will be like a walk in the park for ya! 8 days now I'm sure and going strong. From one Los Angelian to another, Peace- Jonathan 'AKA' Jack from SmileNJack
Posted by: Jonathan P. Lamas at March 17, 2005 05:07 PM
Kyle, I'm so sorry to hear about your breakup. We're here for ya.
Mortisha, ROCK ON! I'm so happy for you!!!
Spreading some love to Kyle and Mortisha today,
Deena
Posted by: Deena13 at March 17, 2005 06:36 PM
fuck shit fucken fuckers. fuuuuck
Posted by: Igor at March 17, 2005 06:49 PM
hey dave, do you get sick of fielding the cliche lamo drug questions that you are asked every day? i think its pretty obvious that your achievements extend beyond taking drugs, so does the massive emphasis everyone puts on that give you the shits?
hope alls well with you and the wife,
bb
Posted by: banana boobs at March 17, 2005 06:52 PM
hey dave,
I lost my grandfather to cancer today. 6 years ago he when he was diagnosed with cancer, the doctors told him he had about 3 months to live...he sure as hell proved them wrong. His health had been deteorating over the last few months..but he would always have a way of hanging in there. Over the summer he sat in his little trailor home in Florida and took a beating from 4 hurricanes...one which took his roof off. I just don't understand how a man can live through shit like that, beat the odds for 6 years, and then die on some random day when things seemed to ok. How do you deal with the feeling of "here today gone tomorrow"? I don't know what to think right now...I just feel all sorts of empty. How do you deal with that?
Posted by: Tommy Venom at March 17, 2005 08:02 PM
Hi Dave,
I was just wondering what advice you'd give a girl (not me, but my best friend ;) ) who's boyfriend is driving her insane with his constant insecure antics. I mean, like one day he writes her pretty love songs and the next day he's throwing a barrage of insults in her direction?? I swear it's like he's a complete Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. Did you ever go through a phase like this when you were younger? Is he afraid of love? Or just too young to deal with it? He's only 23 and she's 25. I mean, he really really pushes her buttons with the insults, calls her bitch, whore, slut, fat, etc., and then the next day calls her sweeeeety pie, looooovvvey dovey, and gives her umpteen million hugs and kisses, then back to the mean stuff!! I tell her to just kick his ass to the curb, but she's too emotionally involved with him. And to be quite frank, the two of them just feed off of one another like a continuous loop of chemicals and wonder emotions. She's on the phone with me right now telling me how he's on the other line saying how he's "not feeling well" and "please don't leave me" and yet she's not wanting to cave in this time, but I JUST KNOW SHE WILL!!
Do you have any "mature" advice for my friend (and her b/f)? Seeing how you've conquered so many problems of your own..Hey, read your book and it was really good - lots of stories and a deep sharing of experiences and some frank advice. I liked it MUCH better than AK's Scar Tissue. And, I'm really looking forward to the new tunes. I absolutely dig your guitar work - keep rockin!
Thanks for any and all help,
Suzy on behalf of her best friend
Posted by: St. Anger at March 17, 2005 08:59 PM
Hello dave and family!
Hope you all had/are having a great and safe St. Paddy's Day!
dave- congrads....once you get through the first month it will be a piece of cake :)
mortisha- Whoo hoo girl! We are proud of you!
kyle- I am sorry to hear the bad news.... I hope that you will use us for support if you need us. I am sure we have all been there and can help you.
have a fantastic weekend!
Posted by: karrie :) at March 18, 2005 12:00 AM
Congrats Maria on the part scholarship!
Tonto. It's so bloody muggy here today. I wish it would rain. I woke up with a terrible headache from the mugginess.
We had a storm a couple of days ago, and my garden is mud now! The dog running around it has destroyed the lawn. Welly boot time out there.
Lisa
xxxx
Posted by: ylais at March 18, 2005 12:43 AM
St. Anger,
We have a saying out here in Cali, "Dump the Bastard/Bitch!" Unless you friend likes being treated like shit! She's too young, he's even YOUNGER and it doesn't sound like it'll ever work out! Life's too short, just DATE, concentrate on the pusuit of happiness, and find someone that appreciates ones' beauty (inner and outer)! The fastest way to get over someone is to find someone else! It's too bad people don't take simple, good advice! Like, people think they have to suffer and put up with someone's shit! Life is simple...we make it complicated!
Posted by: los lonely boy at March 18, 2005 12:44 AM
Looking forward to being there the first time you guys play Blue Bruises live..hey, I have an idea...can you play it this Saturday
woot!!! I just read Steve's blog where he said you guys might play an acoustic version of Blue Bruises on Saturday...Great minds, I tell you, Great minds
Tommy, so sorry to hear of your Grandfather's death, something in a book I read, about only God knowing the number of our days, be glad for the time you had with him, he sounds like he was a fighter,never wait to tell someone how you feel, you don't know when you will get another chance
jezzi(my simple advice for the day)
Posted by: jezebel at March 18, 2005 02:02 AM
Congratulations Dave, I myself had quit a long battle with Drugs, Alcohol, and Smokes. Not to say I never relapsed but its been several years now. I like the fact that everything is falling into place for you and that you will be with us a long time now, for your music has always brought me happiness. Thanks for the Music.
Brian Joseph
Posted by: Brian Joseph at March 18, 2005 02:34 AM
Dave & DN Family,
Here is a good article about Lemmy.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/17/leisure.motorhead.reut/index.html
Later,
Mike from NYC
Posted by: Mike from NYC at March 18, 2005 03:49 AM
Good morning everyone. (Zzz... I'm not quite awake yet. Need that 2nd cup o' joe...)
Mortisha - Congrats! I must've overlooked the post last time I visited.
Tommy - So sorry to hear about your loss. Please accept my deepest condolences.
St. Anger - Los Lonely Boy gave you/your friend great advice. The b-f sounds highly unstable. Your "friend" deserves better. Who needs that aggravation? Unless, of course, someone thrives on that kind of drama. Then they're in a perfect situation. They just shouldn't be surprised or upset when things get stormy -- because they KNOW it's gonna happen. There's a pattern here. Whatever the outcome, good luck and love thyself!
Later and love,
-Denise
Posted by: Denise at March 18, 2005 06:51 AM
Dave: Great decision on the smoking thing and excellent reasoning. My mother suffered from emphysema during the last few years of her life and it reached the point where even going across the room was more than she could handle.
The last three months of her life were hell for us to watch, so I cannot even imagine what it was like for her to go through.
The success is in the effort. Good luck.
Posted by: Annason at March 18, 2005 07:06 AM
Tommy - I am so sorry for your loss...perhaps you can take a small measure of comfort in the knowledge that your Grandpa apparently had a full life and was with you for much longer than anticipated...I hope you come to a place soon where you can remember him with a smile. ((((big hugs)))) Hang in there Sweetie.
Maria...Congratulations..way to go!
Happy Friday, Family.
Posted by: Cori at March 18, 2005 08:46 AM
First off, Madchen rocks, she is SUPER yummy on Twin Peaks or at least I always thought so!
But second!....how did you get the new Hack/Slash????
Everyone I talk to tells me its not even out yet!!!
*spoken in my native KY tongue* Guess us normal folk arent cool enough huh boy!
anyway...I am offcially jealous of you getting to have the new Messy comics AND getting to hang with Nico and Messy all the time *I miss them dammit*
blah...
later
Posted by: MuseSick at March 18, 2005 09:11 AM
you've probably been asked a thousands times...but i'm kinda new to your (very cool) site...what does 6767 mean/stand for?
my website is called dombasco, and is named after an evil monkey who sits ontop of my computer
marku
Posted by: marku at March 18, 2005 10:57 AM
Hi Marku....6767 stands for 6/7/67 which is Dave's bday!
Posted by: Tammi at March 18, 2005 11:56 AM
Hi Dave!
Congrats on the quitting smoking thing. I have been trying for years to get my parents to quit - IMPOSSIBLE!My mom has even smoked with the patch on at the same time. Very hard-headed. And my Dad who has a touch of emphenzema, still smokes (menthol), so I can understand how important it is to you and I wish you nothing but the best! I only wish my family would do the same.
I miss this site, haven't been here in a few, been very busy trying to get things staight with the job and the band. Too busy for words. We finally got our bassist so it is officially happening.
As soon as the website is done everyone here will be able to acces it. Till then...WORK WORK WORK!
Great to see everyone's posts and have a safe weekend!
peace
TL FROM NY
Posted by: TL at March 18, 2005 12:11 PM
Dave
Seeing as though you've got CFR all to yourself this weekend,is there any chance you could give a couple of the new Loop tunes a spin?
I feel like such a pimp,lol,i'm gonna put on some 70's funk music so's i can have my pimp-ness amplified.lol
Steve L
Posted by: MOOYYAA at March 18, 2005 12:13 PM
St. Anger, Thats kinda how it is with me. I'm always called fat, and a bitch... and treated horribly by my boyfriend. So ya know, I understand. Ok so.. on his part it's probably either just the way he is, or he has something against her, or he just afraid of something and doesnt know how to handle it. Honestly the best thing to do is let him go, and she can not feel bad about it, but she also cant be like "yess! i got that jerk off my back". But no one deserves to be treated like that.. *I* for one know that, but the reason I stay is because.. because I believe he can change, and sadly I'm kinda used to it. But letting him go would be best for the both of them because they'll have the time apart and to themselves and just live and ya know date if they find a suitable person. And ya know it may give him time to re-think things and his own life, and realize that that isnt the way to treat a person. And if are meant to be they'll find there way back to eachother and hopefully he has a better attitude and all will be good. But putting up with that all day, is hell and it can do some real damage so before it affects her life and future shes gotta get out.
Posted by: ..::Jess::.. at March 18, 2005 01:44 PM
What's going on Dave???
Posted by: Wendybird at March 18, 2005 03:21 PM
You are a super strong person, Dave!
I don't know personally how hard it is to quit smoking, or to give up drugs, but I watched my dad struggle with his 2-pack-a-day habit off and on for 30 years. Lung cancer took his life, and it was just like you said...he was "clinging."
You are to be commended for your bravery and willingness to make your health and future "being-around-ness" a priority!
Keep up the good work, and the good tunes..and know that lots of us are sending you good vibes! YOU ROCK! ;-)
Posted by: Shannon Cooks at March 18, 2005 03:48 PM
Dave,
How's the quitting smoking going? You inspired me to try and quit with you but I caved after St.Patricks' Day. So today I start fresh just finished my last smoke so now I'm going cold turkey!! wish me Luck.
Cheers,
RE
Posted by: Pinhead at March 18, 2005 04:01 PM
AWESOME for you Dave!!!Just keep thinking about the long
healthy life you want to spend with Carmen!Not to mention
your future children who will want you around!Smoking is not worth giving all that up for!Keep it up!!!!
Posted by: hanty at March 18, 2005 04:24 PM
How about Teahouse of Spirits on CFR?
Elsa
Posted by: Junebug at March 18, 2005 06:00 PM
Thanks Denise :)
It's like eating a Scott Peterson "shit" sandwich. With a slice of Robert Blake. Wash it down with a glass of O.J. Imagine how much shit those woman put up with...change (and salvation) comes from within.
You must love yourself before you let someone love you. And it keeps on going back around to the smoking thing, but, if you really love yourself, you wouldn't subject yourself to sadistic shit. I save my name calling and ass slapping for beddy-time, not in front of my friends!
And there are many "fish" that are out there just waiting to remind a woman of how good it can be! And if you never have, how are going to know how good it can be?
We must learn from the past...
Posted by: los lonely boy at March 18, 2005 06:02 PM
Dave, are you gonna play any of the new (leaked) Fiona Apple tunes on CFR?
Sony's sitting on that beautiful album. They won't release it.
But now the fans have it.
So we need to spread the love.
Come on, man.
You owe it to her.
Posted by: Joshua at March 18, 2005 06:24 PM
Heh, Dave they are using your name to sell used PRS pickups.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42455&item=7308293097&rd=1&tc=photo
"Here is an original 1996 PRS Paul Reed Smith Vintage Bass Neck Humbucker pickup as used by great artists as Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction/RHCP) and Linkin Park!"
Posted by: Zimphire at March 18, 2005 06:43 PM
I'm sorry, loslonelyboy, but, you have a penis, and I don't, thereby, I don't have the luxury of testosterone. I am, by nature,a nurturer, while you are the hunter/gatherer. It's hard to go against thousands of years of being told that it is the female's job to keep the family together, and keep the subservient role. This isn't the place for this, but it hurt me, you know, it's so easy to say, love yourself, bleh, but I have been indoctrinated in other ways of thinking for a long time. Me, I love myself because of the people that love me.
sorry, Dave, we now return to our regularly scheduled programming
jezzi(hit me baby one more time)
anyway, like I said, you missed one.
Posted by: jezebel at March 18, 2005 11:37 PM
cheers for that tammi,
today i am learning about the inca people...very interesting and amusing
dave, i know what it's like when you "go clean" i quit drinking two and half years ago. it's easy enough to do, except for everyone who keep on asking "why don't you drink...go on have a drink". that gets really annoying. stay strong brother. life is too amazing to need other thigns to make it better...otehr than monkey's of course...they just make things nifty
are you coming to england with the panic channel dave? i saw you with jane's on your halloween gig in brixton. you are unbelieveable, i woudl love to see you again
peace out
marku
Posted by: marku at March 19, 2005 04:31 AM
Wow, I really didn't expect to get any comments from board people on here. Thanks especially to los lonely boy, jess, and denise - for taking the time to acknowledge what I posted. And thinking now on what I wrote and how I wrote it - I'm sure some of you probably think this "friend" is me, but she really is a bona fide friend of mine who has more than a few issues. Although, I will say that I don't exactly have a problem-free life either, but mine are nothing like hers - her problems and love life are really "off the charts" (I don't know why I put stuff in quotes like that??). Anyway, I talked to her for a long long time last night and conveyed some of the suggestions you all recommended and she actually listened to me!! Haha! I can't believe I finally got her to chill like that!! She was not too happy to find out that I posted stuff about her on a board, but she knows I didn't use her name, and she is a music lover too, so she actually listened to me! (well, us) Anyway, sorry if my concerns are misplaced here, but I really look up to people who have deep struggles in their lives and figure out how to pull themselves up out of them. I think Dave is such a person, and it would only be wise to assume that he probably attracts friends/acquaintances around him who also have similar personality traits.
Thanks again for all of your words, some of which were also pretty funny!
Suzy, et al.
Posted by: Suzy at March 19, 2005 06:56 AM
